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Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: The schools have a green flag system and many of them have achieved considerable savings. The same could apply to other agencies of the State. We are more or less finished with our deliberations.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: I thank the Minister for being present. That concludes the consideration of the Supplementary Estimates for Votes 20 and 24. We will suspend for a short time before we commence our next item of business.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Message to Dáil (20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: In accordance with Standing Order 87, the following message will be sent to the Dáil:The Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality has completed its consideration of the following Supplementary Estimates for public services for the year ending 31 December 2013: Vote 20 and 24 — Department of Justice and Equality.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: If I might intervene, the Committee of Public Accounts has been seized of that issue. As a result, under Standing Orders, we are not allowed to discuss it, with the exception of the Minister indicating the reason an additional €15 million is required. We cannot discuss any other aspect of the matter because the Committee of Public Accounts is dealing with it.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: That matter is not relevant to the Supplementary Estimates.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: No, it is not contemplated by the Supplementary Estimates.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: The Deputy cannot go there. That matter is not relevant to the Supplementary Estimates.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: In what way?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: Under what heading?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: No, the Deputy should indicate the heading to which his question relates.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: Hold on-----

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: I ask both the Minister and members to stick to the subject of the Supplementary Estimate headings. I have allowed some flexibility and movement away from these, but while the issues we have been discussing are important and interesting, the focus should be on the Supplementary Estimates.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: Sorry, Deputy, I would be interested in a discussion on that at a special meeting of the committee, but today I would like the Deputy to stick with the issue of the Estimates.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: Under Standing Orders, we are supposed to stick with the Estimates.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: I call the Minister to respond and ask him to stick with the Estimates.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: Does Deputy O'Brien want to respond or make any observations?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: I thank the Minister and invite Deputy Collins to respond.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: Yes, but try to stick to the Estimates.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: All mobile telephones should be switched off as they cause interference with the recording system, even in silent mode. This meeting has been convened to consider the Supplementary Estimates for Vote 20 - Garda Síochána and Vote 24 - Justice and Equality. I propose that the committee consider both Supplementary Estimates together. The Supplementary Estimates for Vote 20 - Garda...

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2013
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(20 Nov 2013)

David Stanton: Of course. I am very grateful to the Deputy for his co-operation.

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