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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I know. I have added those in. We have public information on those. They still do not add up. I would like this information presented in a table. The witnesses might come back to us next week. Regarding the Department, obviously its officials have great respect for the HEA and all of that. They accept that the HEA has a significant role to play. I take that as given. I wish to...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Can Mr. Beausang explain to me what the Department did when it found out about these minutes and what the HEA board had recommended?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Very well, perhaps the next witness can answer.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: We have two people here who have no standing whatsoever to answer questions.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Answer the question then.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Excuse me. Mr. Beausang is here to represent the Department. He is here to answer questions. With all due respect, he should not be here if he is not capable of answering the questions or does not have the capacity to do so. His Secretary General or somebody else should be here. With all due respect, it is actually disingenuous to the Committee of Public Accounts for the Department to...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Effectively, we may note that the Department is incapable of answering the question.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: No, I do not want a written answer. The point of public hearings is that the witnesses are asked questions in order to provide answers in public, in camera, for the people outside watching. It is an indictment of the Department of Education and Skills that it did not have the capacity to send anybody here to answer questions, with full knowledge of the fact that these issues have been aired...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Fine. I think I have outlined the point. I have another question for CIT. A company called KONE provides services and courses in CIT. Are any former CIT employees directors of this company, or anyone who is formerly on the management team a director of this company? Can the witnesses come back to us in writing on that? Are any former employees or members of the management team directors...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: This my last point. Obviously, when the draft policy was in place, which Deputy MacSharry examined in detail, it was never used for any cases. That is because there were no disclosures before 2018, so there were no disclosures during the period of the draft policy. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: There were no disclosures when there was a draft policy, there was no agreement on a disclosure when there was a draft policy, and there were no disclosures when there was a policy in place. We have agreed that. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Apologies. I am referring to pre-2018 all the time. For clarity, there were no disclosures when there was a draft policy in place or a full policy in place, pre-2018 and so on. I respectfully ask the Department, through the Higher Education Authority, HEA, or whatever process, to investigate this matter. I had not intended to ask this question at all, but based on the evidence heard...

Written Answers — Department of Finance: Departmental Legal Costs (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: 48. To ask the Minister for Finance the cost to date of legal fees incurred in the case being pursued by the State relating to the decision of the European Commission regarding the alleged grant of state aid to a company (details supplied); the names and amount of fees paid to date to each law firm, senior counsel and barrister; if the barristers are full-time public servants; his views on...

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: Higher Education Authority (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: 69. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills the reason four members of the Higher Education Authority who are not ordinarily resident in the State have remained as members of the authority despite section 9 of the Schedule to the Higher Education Authority Act 1971 stating that such persons shall be disqualified from holding and shall cease to hold office in circumstances in which they...

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: Higher Education Authority Administration (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: 70. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills if his attention has been drawn to a group within an application (details supplied) that has been established for communication by members of the Higher Education Authority; his views on whether this is an appropriate method of communication between members of the authority; if a record is kept of all such communications; and if they are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Cancer Screening Programmes: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I thank the witnesses for coming here today. They will have a huge role to play in the coming weeks. It is a very important role. Many people watching proceedings are depending on the witnesses. I know that because people have told me. There is a need for clarity and honesty. There is a need for the witnesses to explain what happened in the past. I have some of their documentation...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Cancer Screening Programmes: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: It is a statement from the Irish Association for Clinical Cytology.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Cancer Screening Programmes: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I mixed up the two of them. It is my fault. I apologise.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Cancer Screening Programmes: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Let me finish. I have another question. That is the first point. We know now that the 70-30 rule has been cited all along. I was very much taken by the previous outsourcing exercise because it is a statement of fact. It also says: "We would be concerned that an increase in mortality and morbidity may result in Ireland by using a laboratory with low detection rates." There is a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Cancer Screening Programmes: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is fine. I use these for historical context.

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