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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: My next question is more to the HEA than UCC. In some universities accommodation is provided on site for the president. Did the HEA sign off on expenses or costs of funding to provide accommodation for the current president?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: In fairness, UL has a building on site. I am only trying to get to the facts and I am not making any accusations. Is there a cost to the college of providing accommodation for the president?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: How much is that per month?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: By the way, I do not want to know the location because I do not think that would be appropriate.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That will be an ongoing thing.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I appreciate that. I just want to get it out as an expenditure cost compared to other colleges, because it would be good to look at other costs across the board. It could be cheaper for all I know, comparatively, for the HEA if we look at all of the universities. That is €36,000 year.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Obviously it is rented somewhere. I genuinely do not want to know because I do not think that would be fair. It is €36,000 per year to pay for rent for the president. To the students and the public that might seem strange, but I think I have set it in the right context. I wish to make a comment to UCC. We received its letter on the Opera House, and I know the Chairman has a...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Gallagher was there at the time.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Why did the college not tell the committee that information, of which it was aware? There is no way these five or six companies could have not been in discussions or not have had a contract signed at the time the college was here. I have the pictures on my phone of the building work being done a few weeks later.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Is it €2.5 million in total?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Can classes be conducted there?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: So the health and safety issues have been dealt with.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: It costs approximately €2.5 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: But on 17 June the college was not able to tell us these contracts were signed and these costs would be incurred.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I want to get onto the costs of 46 Grand Parade. It was over the asking price, so obviously there were other bidders on it.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Did UCC bid on this building?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Let me get this right. CIT bought it and UCC bid on it and it cost a good bit in excess of the asking price. Do the witnesses talk to each other? From a public point of view, for the taxpayers, it looks very strange. It is taxpayers' money.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I know that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: It is interesting. Obviously, they do not talk, or rather they do meet but they did not discuss this, which is fine but it is very strange. I know Cork well. I went to UCC for many years. It is a great college and probably created me, if that sounds right. I am sorry about that. My issue, however, is that there are two colleges bidding against each other. The asking price is...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Yes, it is, and that is exactly what I am getting at. No. 9 in the Schedule to the Higher Education Authority Act states about people who are not resident in Ireland:A member of An tÚdarás shall be disqualified from holding and shall cease to hold office if he is adjudged bankrupt or makes a composition or arrangement with creditors, or is sentenced by a court of competent...

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