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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I want to know how it plans its procurement. There are things that are known. For example, if there is a contract with a company, the length of the contract is known. What is the process in advance of the review such that there is time to include a tendering process?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: It has become more complex, especially when it is at a particular level, with European requirements.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Unlike Revenue, the Statute of Limitations does not apply to this. It is confirming in writing what most of us probably knew. It is welcome to have that. The process is they will go through 500 individual employment files. That is a piece of work they should be left to do but we should definitely put it on the work programme coming towards the end of the year to ask for an update about...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Could we ask for a schedule of the number of complaints as well? There is a presumption in the way this is written that the complaints are all one way. My understanding is they can go both ways. Within that schedule, can we have both the ones that are referred from GSOC and the ones that are referred to GSOC?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I am sorry, but we were given information on fraud debts broken down by scheme. Are those proven to be fraud? Whenever we have this debate with the Department, we learn that some of the debts in question are administrative-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Overpayments and such like. Has fraud been proven in respect of these cases? I am unsure, so we might follow up on that. While it is legitimate that residency checks at airports and the like happen, it looked like racial profiling at the beginning of the pandemic. It is worth asking the Department whether any of that could have been categorised as racial profiling.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I am happy enough with that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Sometimes, the error made is on the Department's side.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Someone else might wish to contribute first.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: May we seek an update from the OPW on the National Gallery so that we can have a better understanding of the original estimate and the eventual cost? I suspect that it will fall into the same category as Leinster House. With an historical building, one cannot predict some of the issues that will arise. The amount that is allowable for contingency is limited in every contract. It may well...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Regarding legislation to wrap up Caranua, I do not think that happened.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I thank the secretariat for the information. We have a very fragmented body of information. It is not coming from one Department but from many. It is legitimate in relation to State agencies. It is worthwhile putting the jigsaw together to determine the funding profile; it is absolutely of value. I do not believe there is any motive behind an overview, nor do I believe there is anything...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: It is.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Let us focus on that. There should not be any other agenda.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Before we go on to that can I ask that we request the minutes from the national paediatric hospital board for January to March 2021, because it will part of something we will be doing. It was reported in the Irish Examinerlast week that some information is contained in those minutes about the projected date of completion. That would be important information for us to have. As the newspaper...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Exactly. If we could just ask for those. I also wish to highlight an issue about which I have written to the committee. It will not be dealt with until next week but there is a particular timeline attached to it. It is about Benefacts, a not-for-profit organisation that was set up and provides a very useful, open and easy to use database. The database gathers information on grants and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Can we just get some background? I am sure the clerk will do that in regard to-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Catherine Murphy: It is so time sensitive, I would not raise it otherwise.

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