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Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: Deputy Carthy is next if he wants to comment on this issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I will repeat the sequence in the same order when we go back for the European Union question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I am conscious of the time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I call Deputy Ó Murchú.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: No, I am going to move on, if the Deputy does not mind. Everybody will be coming back in again, I have no doubt. I call Senator Chambers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: Yes, it will be about the regular European engagement side of things. In this round, we are trying to focus on-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I call Senator Martin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I will make a couple of comments in this round. It goes without saying - we have all said it here in our condemnation - that what we saw at the weekend was the most barbaric act of terrorism the world has witnessed in many decades. It is right to link it back to the impact of 9-11. There is, however, a level of sheer lacking in humanity in the recording of murder for the purpose of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: Thank you very much. I think everybody has concluded their contributions----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: To come back on the European Union side of things, I welcomed some of the Minister of State's comments on enlargement. We have a strong tradition of supporting enlargement. Ireland has been to the forefront. This committee has done much work, as have various Irish governments. When it comes to the European Union, we should be very clear and I hope the Government agrees. When we went...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: Yes. I disagree respectfully with Senator Chambers on this. That process is coming from a viewpoint of dissolving the European Union as it currently exists. That is effectively the Franco-German proposal. It is not a marginal proposal. It should not be welcomed. It proposes three tiers. They call them rings because tiers obviously upset them. This is a dusting down of a Macron...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I would not even use it to get things started. I would throw it out before it arrived but that is just you and me.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: It is a nuanced difference. We will let the Minister of State try to arbitrate between us.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: We are playing a vital role within it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: The area falls primarily within the foreign affairs committee rather than our committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: It is happening in Europe, I agree, but I think it is happening in both committees. I said to the Deputy we would come back with a timeline on it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I would like to work with the clerk and check that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I know. I would like to work with the clerk on that, if you do not mind. I will check and come back with an answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: How many independent reports end up being discussed over lunch at the council-----

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