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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: The CAO in position had both of those. I thank Mr. Culhane. Mr. Barrett then did his work and synthesised these findings. He has seen Mr. Kelly's work now. Does Mr. Barrett believe he was on the right track?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Mr. Barrett's work was subsequently verified by Mr. Kelly's work. Then the CAO at the time-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: -----said to Mr. Barrett that he would brief the audit committee.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay. However, that did not happen.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Did he give Mr. Barrett an explanation for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: What did the witness make of that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: What does the Commissioner make of that? Was she in position as Garda Commissioner at that stage?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Nonetheless, Ms O'Sullivan was the woman in charge.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Was Ms O'Sullivan aware that this synthesis work had happened, that the audit committee was to be briefed and that it had not been briefed? What was her knowledge of that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I ask the Commissioner to, please, tell us when she became aware that the synthesis work had happened.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Does that tally with the recollection of Mr. Barrett?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: The meeting lasted two hours.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Mr. Barrett has minutes of the meeting? Can the committee have them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Two hours is not brief, is it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: We need clarity because in nobody's language is a two-hour exchange brief. Mr. Barrett seems to be quite sure in his recollection and says he has minutes and documentary evidence to support the fact that it was a two-hour meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I suggest, unless this is totally irregular on my part, that we suspend the sitting for five minutes to allow the Commissioner to view the documentation that I believe Mr. Barrett has with him. We cannot sit here wondering if it was a five-minute or a two-hour meeting. With the indulgence of other members, I suggest-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am happy enough with that suggestion.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Before the Commissioner looks at the documentation, she went to Mr. Dunne to ask why it was that he had not briefed the audit committee in the way suggested to Mr. Barrett? Did she approach him to query it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: There was an undertaking given to do so in July. We have heard testimony that Mr. Barrett worked through the weekend to carry out the work. At his request, he was to bring the matters forward, but he did not. He has told us that he was very disappointed. What exactly was going on? Did the Commissioner ask him?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: No, I am sorry. The Commissioner may come back in at the end and rehearse the general scope, if she so wishes, but we are dealing with a very specific issue and I want specific clarification. We need to clear up the question of whether it was a five-minute or a two-hour exchange because one version is correct and the other incorrect. In my view, the Commissioner has not given a credible...