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Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: Those staff are on the books since March 2019 at the very earliest.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: I see the breakdown here. I have some questions on this. Have the staff already been rotated on a 24-7 basis or is that Brexit preparation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: It is and this is what concerns me if they have not been on 24-7. There were 130 people in Dublin Port and there are an extra 95 staff. If an extra shift has to be accommodated with 95 staff, it is not a huge increase. I know it is 73% but given what we expect from Brexit and what it will entail, it is not really a sufficient increase.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: Apportionment.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: What Mr. Cody is saying is we have the 600 and we need an extra 300, who are not yet in train.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: They have not been trained, however.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: As in every item of post will be regarded as an import?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: What portion of staff will carry out physical checks as opposed to paperwork and administration? Will they be combined working in the port or will they be outside the port?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: On the traffic light system Mr. Cody mentioned, what interaction has he had on how it will operate? Is he depending on Internet service on the ships? How will it work?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: The drivers.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: Has this been trialled at this point?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: How did it go? When was it trialled?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: Given that certain ships on routes do not have an Internet facility at this point in time, it would not be easy to trial it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: The difficulty this week in the media is that Stena Line is apportioning blame to Dublin Port. It states the infrastructure for Revenue and inspections is in the wrong place. The port's answer to this is that the shipping companies should alter their schedules. This could throw Revenue's system into disarray. In essence, what the ferry companies are saying is they will not alter their...

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: I have very limited time so I do not need to engage in that discussion. I want to ask about contingency plans for bad weather in this country. We are an island and we are greatly dependent on shipping. The current system is that if people receive paperwork from anybody in the supply chain in preparation for a vehicle entering the port, there has to be a movement reference number. This is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Verona Murphy: This is a truck going to the port to leave the country, which is not yet on a ferry. If, for whatever reason, the ferry does not run, and the same would apply on the land bridge if it gets to the UK and cannot get on the ship, what is the plan if the ship does not sail? Instead of having to endure all of the procedures again, is there a simple operation whereby the ferry operator is changed...

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