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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: The operator decided to introduce it.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: One would have to conclude that it has reduced credibility with a possible fall-off in sales, because it was seen to be virtually impossible to win it. The operator did this but why did the regulator not propose it?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: That there would be a cut-off point and a must-win limit.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I am asking Ms Boate this question now as regulator. I am sure that there would be numerous and regular communication between her office and the operator. Surely, at that point, given the level of public discussion around this, the whole credibility of the national lottery was a stake here. As regulator, did it occur to anybody in her office of the nine or ten staff members which I read of...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: ------because the public who play the lotto got on to the Deputies about it. I find that strange, where the regulator has confirmed this morning that no one in her office raised this matter, or raised it with the operator. On the number of balls that are played-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I do not understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Can I just say this to the regulator because it has come up on a number of occasions here this morning, where I have heard this discussion going backwards and forwards. I understand that the role of the regulator is to ensure that the lottery operates as per the terms of the licence and within the law. I understand and get that. A regulator cannot be a bystander when major issues are...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Could this issue not have been raised there?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: People buy tickets because they have a chance of winning and that is why people gamble. That is the compulsion which drives people.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: On the extra balls that were introduced, that is an issue which I hear talked about over and over again and this is being said by a person who has never played the game. I believe the RED C polling company phoned me up about it, it was one of the questions it asked me and I was not much use to them on that front. I hear this point, however, from people who do play the game. It is very much...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I am asking about the number of extra balls which were introduced.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Who decided that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: That also came from Premier Lotteries Ireland as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. On on the saturation advertising, I do not play the game but I see the advertisements over and over again. Is the regulator aware that 40% of the complaints to the Advertising Standards Authority for Ireland this year relate to the national lottery?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Has the Advertising Standards Authority for Ireland been in contact with Ms Boate's office regarding this?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Regarding the term "good causes" being used and 90% of the money going back into the community, I have read the briefing notes and the Comptroller and Auditor General's stuff on this. It is about 28% that actually goes back into community and retailers get between 5% and 6%, according to the briefing notes. Then there are the winnings. That is what it is about. While technically it may be...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I am asking Ms Boate, as the regulator, if she has concerns about the credibility of that claim? It is a direct question.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I would have a different view. I think the vast majority of people, if asked, would have a different view, but I accept Ms Boate's explanation.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I will ask Mr. Nolan what percentage of the company is owned by An Post? What is its share of investment in it?

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