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Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: The Minister is leaving it open. There is a problem with legislation.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: That is untrue. The Minister, Deputy Cowen, has just arrived in and has not heard the debate so far.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: The Deputy has not heard the debate.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: The Minister, Deputy Cowen, has not heard the debate so far.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: We have supported every single mission that has come before the House.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: I was there.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: I made plenty of amendments. Michel Barnier put his forward. I may raise the issue.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: I know that, it is Norway.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: If a contingent of the Permanent Defence Force assembles, for instance, in a neighbouring country, as the Minister stated, and comes under attack, I assume it can defend itself in those circumstances. If it does so, is it not becoming embroiled in a conflict without a UN mandate?

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: Then the Minister would find himself out of step with the other members of the battle groups.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: Exactly.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: It is unrealistic that we would withdraw and the others would remain.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: No, this is called legislation. We must go through it systematically.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: It happens in war. People get attacked.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: They are going into a neighbouring country.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: I gave the Minister the example of a neighbouring country.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: Would they not be very foolish to withdraw after one attack?

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: It is our job as legislators——

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: ——to go through this in some detail. Unfortunately, we have not been given the time to go through it.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages. (4 Jul 2006)

John Gormley: We are here to look at all scenarios. That is what we are supposed to do. Unfortunately, when it is rushed we will not do our job properly.

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