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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: We have invited the hospital board, the HSE's chief link in the chain and the Secretary General in the Department of Health. We need to get them out of the way. We agreed last week to write to the Office of Government Procurement, which may have a more direct role in it than the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. It will set policy but it is up to the Secretary General. He is...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: I will hold over the financial statements received since our last meeting before Christmas until the next meeting but there is one item on the work programme that I want members to think about. Several companies from the private sector are coming in to talk to us on the broadband issue. They are all asking what the process is, what they should say, what the issues are and what the topic is...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: This morning's session is specifically on UL, Sligo IT, Waterford IT-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: They will all be together. The Department has sent in a long statement but it has been told to summarise it in the public session.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will ask for copies to be circulated. There are a number of opening statements and we want to hear them all in the next session because somebody might choose to only talk about UL and somebody else might choose to only talk about Sligo IT so we have to get all of them out there so we can have a logical discussion afterwards.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: If nobody asks one, I will.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: In this session we will examine the Comptroller and Auditor General's special report No. 103 on the handling of remuneration for certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo. We have also requested an update on the implementation of Dr. Thorn's Independent Review of Certain Matters and Allegations Relating to the University of Limerick. In the...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will ask Mr. Ó Foghlú for his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: I wish to put one point to Mr. Ó Foghlú before I take the next opening statement. He is aware that the committee has discussed financial statements in the third level sector at length. He has been involved in those discussions on several occasions. We issued a report on 11 July 2017 regarding the unacceptable delay in receiving accounts from the various institutions. Yesterday,...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is a "Yes".

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr Ó Foghlú is indicating that we can expect to wait three years from the end of the relevant financial year for the accounts to be published. As Accounting Officer, he must accept that is utterly unacceptable. This is all public money. We issued a special report in July 2017 specifically dealing with this issue and I am sure the Secretary General accepted the correctness of...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: The first task for the Department was to ensure that the institutions complied with their statutory duties rather than wait as long as two and a half years for the accounts to be submitted to the Department to allow it to begin its inquiries. Mr. Ó Foghlú is stating that the Department will now review the accounts for the period from 1 October 2016 to 30 September 2017, a year and...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: The three institutions appearing today will again come before the committee, along with representatives of the Department, as soon as the financial statements for the period ending September 2017 in the case of UL and 31 August 2017 in the cases of IT Sligo and Waterford Institute of Technology are finalised. We expect representatives of each of the institutions to appear, along with Mr....

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. O'Toole have anything on IT Sligo?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: The committee has agreed to get all of the opening statements on the record at this point.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes. We want to get it on the record.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 103 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Remuneration of certain senior staff in the University of Limerick and Institute of Technology Sligo (24 Jan 2019)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Cullinane has a quick comment on the issues in respect of Waterford Institute of Technology. We do not normally take comments at this stage, but Mr. O'Toole has highlighted a very significant, major and substantial issue that will be before the committee and we want to deal with it immediately.

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