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Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Okay. What is interesting from Ms Moran's evidence is that she mentioned the regional health forum. That was leading to my next question so she has answered that already. Decision-makers locally and regionally attend the health forum. I used to be a member of the health forum and I think the Cathaoirleach may have been too in his previous capacity. Certainly, however, it is very good for...

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: The reason I am asking is that engagement on behalf of the public, through the public representatives and regional health forum, is a very good vehicle. While the HSE might not meet the campaign group for whatever reason, this is where this committee comes into its own. We have done this previously but in terms of their campaign, have the witnesses written to or engaged with the Joint...

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Sorry, I meant the health committee here in the Oireachtas.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: It is okay. That was another question, so I thank Ms Mahon.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Is it the case that the campaign group has not written directly to the health committee?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Okay. As Deputy Buckley said, we are the end of the road for many groups or individuals who have exhausted all correct and relevant avenues. That is not to deter the representatives from their campaign today. They are here today and that is important. Yet, in my experience, it would be best to go through the health committee, because the Minister will attend it on a regular basis, as the...

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: That was last year.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Is Deputy O'Donoghue a member of the committee?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Of course, you would be there. From a campaign perspective, if it is health-related it should be submitted to the health committee and should not be referred. I think the witnesses need to do that. If they have not done so already I suggest they do. Ms McMahon made an earlier point about actual engagement, such as with the head of the HSE, regional decision-makers, or indeed the...

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Cathaoirleach, I am asking the witnesses.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I am not asking who they vote for either. I am just wondering if the campaign group is apolitical.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Yes, that is not uncommon.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: No, obviously. Is it the case that the committee itself is apolitical?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Okay. From our perspective as a committee, we had a recent experience with a number of petitions where we brought in various individuals, such as from the HSE and HIQA. Ms Mahon mentioned the report. In what year was the Deloitte report published?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I suggest in response to the petitioners and the campaign that the best thing for us as a committee would be to extend invitations - reference was made to some of the questions that were put by the campaign group - to the relevant individuals, whether those are within the HSE or more locally and regionally so that we can hear from those clinical decision-makers. If I may, we got some...

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Even in early July through August, the numbers were still continuing to climb.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: They did not decline at all in UHL.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: My final question is about the initiatives that have been put in place. The HSE’s performance management improvement unit has been directed to lead the process in partnership with the UHL team members supporting the hospital and community services in driving a programme to work to respond more effectively to the current pressures. It does not say exactly when that began, but I...

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I got that figure earlier. Is it the case that they have not seen any evidence of any-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: My final point is on staff. Does the campaign group have engagement with staff working in the hospitals?

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