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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: The number of convictions for trafficking have increased, which is a good thing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Dr. Whitaker for her evidence.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: I will be brief. A number of us heard Dr. Whitaker’s presentation previously at the Department of Justice and Equality conference and we have been immersed in the topic for some time. I disagree with Dr. Whitaker’s analysis of the Swedish law. Having read the recent analysis and having visited Sweden and spoken to many of the stakeholders, we have seen strong results in terms...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: To be clear, the 1993 Act defines and prohibits soliciting for the purpose of buying or selling, which is the criminal offence. In effect, the client is now criminalised.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: Both buyer and seller are criminalised.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: No.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: There is no evidence of that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: I thank our guests for their presentation and the broader submission they provided. The submission refers to a 2010 evaluation of the Swedish model which indicates that issues such as the indoor sex trade and technology such as mobile telephones are being targeted by the Swedish police. A delegation from the joint committee visited Sweden in November to find out a little more about the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: As a non-member of the committee who has played an active role in the proceedings over the past three days I thank the Chairman for his impeccable chairmanship of the meetings. I also thank the staff of the joint committee, as well as the members, for allowing us non-members also to have input. In addition, I of course thank the witnesses who have given us such insight over the three days....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: I thank the panel for their excellent presentations. Senator Healy Eames did not check with me but Labour Women is actually affiliated to the National Women's Council of Ireland and I have personally had many dealings with it. Membership is usually confined to organisations affiliated to it and not individuals. I have attended some of its meetings and annual general meetings and I have...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: I like the Hill 16 reference.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: This panel has given us a reality check. However welcome and overdue the legislation we are debating, it will clearly not meet the needs of the majority of women travelling for abortion every year. I agree with Ms Ailbhe Smyth that the change in culture has already occurred. Introducing legislation for the X case will not change the culture. The legal position will remain the same. We...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: Following that last comment, could the legal representatives opposite clarify the following? I heard one of them state that risk of suicide was a ground in the English Act. I looked again at the 1967 Abortion Act and, as they all will be aware, of course, risk of suicide does not require to be proven. The test is a much lower test of injury to physical or mental health of the woman. There...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: -----and students are no longer faced with the threat of imprisonment for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: It is a real fear of prosecution under the 1861 Act.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: Over the last two days we have heard the consensus from independent legal and medical experts on the need for legislation for the X case. Atheist Ireland is correct to point out that three days of parliamentary hearings should not be necessary to discuss how the law should allow a doctor to save the life of a dying pregnant woman. I have a question for the Catholic representatives in that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (9 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Dr. Brady for his clear presentation. A consensus is emerging from the medical and legal experts who testified yesterday and this morning on the need for regulation and legislation, in accordance with the decision taken by the Government before Christmas. The legislation must provide for an accessible and effective procedure. In regard to the number of doctors required, chapter...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (9 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: I thank the witnesses for their excellent presentations. I agree with the legal analysis offered and Dr. Mills' characterisation of the debate as three-sided. It is useful to note that research on the experience of women in Ireland who have had abortions, for example, by Dr. Ruth Fletcher, shows they feel disengaged and alienated from a debate that is unduly polarised. It is notable that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (9 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: Is it Dr. Mills's view that there should be provision for emergencies? The expert group report states, on page 36, that one doctor should be enough in an emergency. Why then is it required to have three opinions in a non-emergency? Does that not render the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights ineffective? Specifically, paragraph 267 of the A, B and C v. Ireland decision points...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (8 Jan 2013)

Ivana Bacik: I thank the three witnesses for their strong presentations and for the clarity with which they have provided us, in particular on the issues of time limits and, as described by the European Court of Human Rights, the chilling effect of the 1861 Act and the lack of legal clarity upon current medical practice. Dr. Coulter Smith and Dr. Mahony testified to that. I have a specific question in...

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