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Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: The Tánaiste referred to it being restrictive and spoke of a "cooling-off" period of 72 hours to assure people. The words "cooling-off" are used across legislation, in negotiations with trade unions and even in the insurance industry. These words were used by the Tánaiste, yet the Minister finds them disgusting. I do not know what kind of a Cabinet table they have-----

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: Nobody takes the Tánaiste seriously.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: Am I not allowed to continue? I am being interrupted.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: Some people in here believe we cannot speak on this issue and we should go away or disappear. The Minister finds different people's words disgusting every day. He should examine his conscience. He said the Tánaiste's words were disgusting and now mine are disgusting.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: I am quoting from the record. The quote is from the Irish Examiner.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: I am merely pointing out that the Minister said yesterday that the phrase "cooling-off" was disgusting. The Irish Examinerattributed those words to the Tánaiste some time in May. This is a simple matter. We cannot say something today and forget about it tomorrow, even if the Minister would like to do that. Yesterday, the Minister described those words as disgusting. The...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: Is the Chairman chairing the meeting?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: This is scandalous.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: This is ridiculous.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: It is a sham.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: It appears some of us cannot speak and must be interrupted.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: We are being shouted down.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: We are shouted down every time we speak. The same was done in the joint committee on the eighth amendment and this is nearly as bad.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: I am surprised at the Chairman.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: New Fianna Fáil.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: The Minister has constantly said that he wants doctors to have absolute clarity. He said that during the campaign and he has said it here and then he rejects any reasonable amendments we have tabled. We might as well have addressed them all en bloc. It has been said that they are not necessary in primary legislation and that these matters can be dealt with by guidelines. That is a...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: We are well able to speak for ourselves and table our amendments as well.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: I never said that.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: I said it was not. I respect the will of the people. Deputy Durkan said there are responsible people in his party and that people would take the Tánaiste’s word about the cooling off period and the 72 hours as a given and now his colleague in government, the other Simon, is saying that is disgusting. It is a case of two Simons and one is more simple than the other. That is the...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: We are about to have a vote on one of the most important questions we could ever be asked, as to whether this legislation, as put forward by the Minister for Health, would change everyday medical practice. It is no overstatement to say that the Minister has proposed nothing short of a radical change in the model of medical practice and care provided by maternity services in Ireland. We have...