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Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: I am sorry, Ms Downes, but I am asking the questions. Meeting and conference costs were €10,006, which was more than five times the cost for the previous year at a time when Caranua was winding down. Can Ms Downes give me a breakdown of that expenditure?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Caranua had a conference in the UK.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: This refers to meeting and conference costs.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Caranua already has subsistence, if I am not mistaken. There are other-----

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: I would like to put on the record that I read the report also and the report, and what is reported to this committee, as well as what is in the public domain, does not reflect the work of Caranua. I am very disappointed that the report is not transparent. What we need to learn in this day and age is that survivors in receipt of what Ms Downes or other people may deem to be compensation were...

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: I do not need to discuss it.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: I thank Ms Downes.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: I want to go back to the statement of internal control. I am curious as to why no board member of Caranua has attended today. Is there any specific reason?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: How many board members are there?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Only the chairperson was-----

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Caranua did not proffer one of them instead of the chairperson? No. Okay. The statement of internal control states that the board is "reasonably assured". Could that statement be elaborated on?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Well, Ms Downes signed the statement. It is signed by her and Mr. O'Callaghan.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: No. I asked why there is no one here from the board. What is written is that "The Board is reasonably assured that the systems of Internal Control instituted and implemented in the Residential Institutions Statutory Fund Board for the financial year ended 31st December 2019 are effective." It is signed by both Ms Downes and Mr. O'Callaghan but on behalf of the board, I assume.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: I am asking what needs to be assured-----

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: I thank the Comptroller and Auditor General.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Is the question then more whether there are any reservations regarding the statement?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Is the firm a UK company?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: May we receive those?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: What about tomorrow morning?

Written Answers — Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection: Domiciliary Care Allowance (16 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: 226. To ask the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the consideration that has been made to realign the age category for domiciliary care allowance from 16 to 18 years of age; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [43989/20]

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