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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: It is in Mr. Culhane's hand. They are Mr. Culhane's words.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am sorry, Chairman,-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: -----but will Mr. Ruane clarify what he means by that? Mr. Culhane was concerned that he was seeking advice from the-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Golf club.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am sorry, Deputy Kelly, but is Mr. Ruane telling us that Mr. Culhane was hostile to the notion of the former seeking outside advice on these matters?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Was Mr. Culhane hostile to Mr. Ruane seeking such outside advice from the Attorney General's office?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Why then was Mr. Culhane shocked?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am sorry to cut across Deputy Kelly, Chairman, but can we have that file note?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Chairman, to assist Deputy Kelly, this is astonishing. Mr. Howard has come in here today to assist us on these matters. I find it very hard to believe that he has no recollection of them or that he has not taken the trouble to sequence matters so that he can present them in a coherent way. I am sorry, Deputy Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am sorry, Chairman, but when it is on substantive matter of who he met and in what sequence, on matters like this I would have expected Mr. Howard to confer with his diary or whatever records he keeps. It seems to me to be obfuscation. It is delaying our inquiries.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Of course he can.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I do not think I have ever seen anything quite as shambolic as this. It feels as though we are trapped in an episode or even a series of "Father Ted". Nobody is responsible for anything, everybody knew everything, yet nobody knew anything. It is absolutely astonishing. Mr. Culhane did not make Mr. Kelly aware of the 2008 report done by Mr. McGee. Why did Mr. Culhane not make Mr. Kelly...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Please, really. Do not totally break me by going through all of those again. I have an email from Mr. Barry McGee addressed to Mr. Barrett. It is from 25 June. I believe that is 2015. Mr. Culhane commissioned Mr. McGee to carry out this report. It was under Mr. Culhane's auspices?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Where is Mr. McGee? Does he still work for Mr. Culhane?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: This is Barry McGee?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: This email from Mr. McGee to Mr. Barrett might help us shed light on what was happening here. Mr. McGee asks how Mr. Barrett is doing and goes through some of the issues. He then says: "I think the problem in approaching the solving of this, is that because of the potential negative reputational risk for the organisation - in that once this starts to be sorted out it hits the public media,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: -----"has said if you wish to meet and discuss this etc. might be useful..."

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I thank Mr. Barrett. I do not doubt the provenance of the email or its authenticity.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes. It is received from Mr. Barrett. It is page 117 of the pdf. I have extracted pieces from it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Mr. Culhane commissioned Mr. McGee to write the report, and he duly went about his business and produced the report. Mr. Culhane did not think it appropriate to tell Mr. Kelly of internal audit about the report. Who did he share the report with?