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Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: It is; he mentioned Dr. Boylan.

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: It is. Dr. Boylan is rolled out as the lead-----

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: They are being wasted now. I will not be repetitive but am just saying the Minister knows of a situation in Clonmel. He visited a medical practice that wanted to provide ultrasound services for the people of south Tipperary and west Waterford and gave eight months to discussing it. After the Minister's intervention and many senior meetings, hey presto, they rang me on Friday evening and...

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: They got an offer to enable them to provide what the Minister should be doing, namely, provide for the people who are on a waiting list for six months and clogging up the accident and emergency departments in South Tipperary General Hospital and University Hospital Waterford. After eight days, the contract was pulled. The Minister told me himself when I chatted to him privately and publicly...

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: There was talk about money and leaving people go blind or to leave the hips go. We are not like that at all. We are compassionate people and have compassion for everybody. As for those appalling messes over which the Minister is presiding in the HSE, it gets worse by the hour. We want the Minister to make some effort on that and to have some impact but he is unable to do it. If he had...

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: It does not say that anywhere. The Minister can nod all he likes but it does not.

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: I move amendment No. 41:In page 14, line 29, to delete "or section 14certification" and substitute ", section 14certification or section 23certification". Amendment No. 41 relates to certification of the records that are kept and the fact that practitioners and people carrying out abortion procedures will be expected to keep records. In the discussion on previous amendments, the Minister and...

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: I think this is horrific and despicable. I respect what Deputy Harty said. He is a member of my group and I respect his knowledge. I too, thankfully, have a very healthy grandchild. How dare Deputy O'Connell lecture us about fairy tales or anything else. She shut me out of the committee. I brought in a video of an animated abortion. I asked the chairperson and everybody at the...

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: I am sorry I missed some of the Minister's contribution. I had to go out to get a charger for my phone. This is a most basic request regarding an abortion which goes wrong in the eyes of the unfortunate woman who wants it for whatever reason unfortunately and in those of the professional engaged to carry out the act. We have cases and I have given them to the Minister. I have provided him...

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: That is a disgraceful comment. It is outrageous.

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: That is tolerance all right.

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: I move amendment No. 38:In page 11, between lines 18 and 19, to insert the following: “Protection of Infants born alive 16. (1) In this section, “born alive” means the complete emergence of a foetus from the body of the woman, regardless of the state of gestational development, who, after emergence, whether or not the umbilical cord has been cut or the placenta is...

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: How can anyone trust the Minister?

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: He does not believe they have any rights.

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: I am saddened and shocked - we all are. We said all along - and I repeated it earlier - that we accept totally where an intervention has to be made in an emergency in terms of anything that would affect the health or the life of the mother. The Minister does not have to pick up on that. That is quite clear and understood by all of us. Some abortion advocates claim that the unborn child...

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: How can they trust in the Minister?

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: I am extremely disappointed and flabbergasted that is all the Minister would say, that he could just say we would be interfering with the clinicians and obstetricians. It is a feeble answer. Am I surprised? No. Why do we want to see this in the Bill? Because we do not trust you. A sizeable majority of people do not want you, even people who voted yes do not trust you. How could they?...

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: -----that was sent out in 2011 by him, when he was Councillor Simon Harris, to pro-life people in Wicklow. "Dear [whoever], I am contesting the general election in Wicklow for Fine Gael and am happy and proud to assure you that I am pro-life."

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: "In response to your two direct questions, ... yes, if elected to the Dáil I will oppose any legislation to introduce abortion in Ireland. ... Yes, I will support legislation that protects the human embryo from deliberate destruction and I will oppose any legislation that does not. Please be assured of my support. I need number 1 votes on Friday so I can be in a position to support...

Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report Stage (Resumed) (29 Nov 2018)

Mattie McGrath: That was signed by the Minister when he was a councillor in 2011.

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