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Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: Have they or have they not? The Minister does not know.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: The Minister said €500 million was going to Irish Water.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: How much of that €500 million will come back in service level agreements to the local authorities?

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: Who paid the 200 new staff and the 450 staff Deputy Brian Stanley mentioned?

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: I concur. Contrary to what the public was led to believe, the proceeds from the property tax are not staying in the local authority system; they are not being spent within the local authority system in its entirety. That was the case last year and will be the case next year. It remains to be seen what will be the case in the year after. With regard to the funding that has been taken from...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: There will be duplicity because there is a management structure in place within local authorities which has managed water services effectively in the past. It is being asked to do it again under service level agreements and a new management structure is being put in place within Irish Water to manage the same thing also. As Deputy Brian Stanley and I have said in the past, there is a call...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: No, but there is an effective mechanism within local authorities to deal with it, as was proved during the bad winter a few years ago when we saw how effective it was in how it was managed. I told the Minister previously that I would have preferred to see a regional structure retaining ownership for most regional local authorities rather than transferring it. The configuration of Irish...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: No. Let us take the example of Leitrim County Council. There are approximately 30 staff employed in water services provision, be it at management level or on the ground dealing with the pipe network and so forth. They will remain in place under the service level agreement and will have to be paid the same rates of pay they have received heretofore. Management within Leitrim County Council...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: It will be in the Seanad tomorrow, but today the Minister is asking us to approve taking €500 million from the Central Fund

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: Therefore, there is no need for Irish Water.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: It is in order that the Government can raise funds.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: I cannot adjudicate on whether the Minister is right or wrong in the absence of adequate legislation which he does not explain.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: During the course of the year the Minister changed his mind in regard to funding raised by virtue of the property tax in that only a particular percentage of it is now to be reimbursed to local authorities, which proposal Fianna Fail does not support. The Minister is keeping his commitment in this regard by virtue of what is proposed in this Bill. In regard to the proposed transfer of...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: How much?

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: How much will they get back?

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: Where is the remaining €100 million going?

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: As stated by Deputy Stanley, Irish Water is a bit of a runaway train because the Minister is taking €600 million-----

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: What would happen if ten Independents were elected?

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: Fianna Fáil is growing, apparently.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Barry Cowen: We have the majority on Tullamore Town Council, but Sinn Féin did a deal with Fine Gael.

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