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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: What did Mr. Howard do about that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Did Mr. Howard contact the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General to make it aware that the integrity and standing of the head of audit and, by extension, the internal audit process itself were being challenged in such a direct way by the director of finance or whatever Mr. Culhane's official title is?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Did Mr. Howard contact the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General at all on this matter?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Mr. Howard believes he discussed it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Was the Comptroller and Auditor General aware that this challenge to the internal audit and its head had been made in such a direct way by Mr. Culhane?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: According to Mr. Howard, Mr. Harkness was the person he spoke to in the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General. Does Mr. McCarthy have any record of that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am sorry to hear of the passing of Mr. Howard's father. At that stage, Mr. Howard wrote a letter in which he set out to the Commissioner the reservation he had in terms of commenting on this matter but he now feels liberated to do so.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Indeed, Mr. Howard does so very explicitly in his letter.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: What I cannot understand is why Mr. Howard did not much more energetically pursue the Commissioner in terms of remedying this matter and why he was not much more energetic in his engagement with the Comptroller and Auditor General. It does not get much more serious when the head of finance in an organisation, which is Mr. Culhane's position, openly challenges the head of internal audit? The...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: That is a the most profound and most basic challenge to the authority, integrity and efficacy of the audit process. I cannot imagine a more serious challenge than that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: That is fine. I accept that Mr. Howard is no longer in position and appreciate he is here to assist us with our inquiries. However, this is off-the-wall stuff. Maybe those of us on the outside have different expectations of those on the inside who carry such significant responsibilities. Mr. Culhane directly and openly challenged the authority of Mr. Kelly, the internal auditor, on issues...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: It is Deputy Aylward.

Written Answers — Department of Health: Mental Health Tribunals (30 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: 407. To ask the Minister for Health the cost per mental health tribunal for legal aid provided to the patient; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [25341/17]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Mental Health Guidelines (30 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: 409. To ask the Minister for Health if section 8 of the Mental Health Act 2001 does not prevent involuntary sectioning of persons with alcoholic use disorders; if the law allows for the involuntary sectioning of persons with substance use disorders and a mental health disorder; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [25348/17]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Mental Health Guidelines (30 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: 411. To ask the Minister for Health the details of the operating clinical guidelines governing the operation of the Mental Health Act 2001 in circumstances in which there is an alcohol or substance use disorder; if these guidelines under the provisions of the Act make a distinction between primary or secondary disorders, that is, alcohol use disorder as the primary problem with a secondary...

Written Answers — Department of Health: Mental Health Guidelines (30 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: 412. To ask the Minister for Health if a person with a recent prescription for a psychotropic drug is considered to be a clinical indication of a mental health disorder under the guidelines of the Mental Health Act 2001; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [25351/17]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Substance Misuse (30 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: 410. To ask the Minister for Health the way in which he will ensure legal compliance of operation between different drug and alcohol approved centres; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [25349/17]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Mental Health Services Data (30 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: 413. To ask the Minister for Health the number of occasions on which, and the number of persons involved, an attempt was made to involuntarily section a person but the request was refused by the admitting psychiatrist; the reason the request was refused in each instance; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [25352/17]

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