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Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: I thank Mr. McDonagh. His answer has been helpful. Was that the only discussion that anyone in NAMA had with anyone on what was potentially to happen? I presume that the NRDA gravitated towards what became-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: I agree.

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: Speaking as a former Minister, I believe that what Mr. McDonagh suggested was deadly accurate. It is almost certain that the NRDA gravitated towards what has since been announced. Can I take it as a given that no one in NAMA had any other discussion on this matter?

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: I thank the witnesses. That was helpful. I have two final questions. Strategic development zones, SDZs, have been mentioned and were outlined in NAMA's letter. Regarding a number of other sites, it is inexplicable that NAMA hit certain roadblocks getting them to the development stage. The example of the Dublin docklands was given. It has pushed on to 61%. The Poolbeg site situation...

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: I do not want to take up too much time, as I have a further question. I just want to isolate whether there has been anything unreasonable.

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: This is Mr. McDonagh's opportunity to say if there has been. Otherwise, everyone is behaving reasonably.

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is an interesting observation and many people watching will take much from it. Will Mr. McDonagh give examples?

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: Mr. McDonagh specifically stated that local authorities did not have the funding.

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: Could he provide an example? It is not a traffic light issue.

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: I notice that Mr. McDonagh is reticent to name a site or local authority.

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: Why is that?

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: As Mr. McDonagh is reticent to name a site or local authority, I will. What about the Player Wills site? It is an incredible site that I know well. It covers 4.32 ha and has been vacant for more than a decade. I know NAMA's remit, I explain it to people from time to time and I know how strict its mandate is, but to the public leaving that acreage in a prime location with access to...

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: I respect the legal obligations and the situation NAMA is left in. I know NAMA's mandate off by heart. Having said that, it is robbing Peter to pay Paul from the public's perspective because of the economies that would be created by DCC having this site for affordable and cost-rental housing. It will cost the State more by going down this route. I know state aid rules well. I went...

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2016 and 2017
Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 102: National Asset Management Agency Second Progress Report
(20 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: Definitely not on that site.

Scoping Inquiry into the Cervical Check Screening Programme: Statements (19 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: I have asked the following question before, but I would like an update on it. When will the audit recommence? There are ongoing issues if it is not continued. We will all be responsible if it does not recommence because it could potentially result in other issues being delayed because it is not happening. Can we have some urgency in that regard, given that carrying out the audit is good...

Scoping Inquiry into the Cervical Check Screening Programme: Statements (19 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: Agreed.

Scoping Inquiry into the Cervical Check Screening Programme: Statements (19 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: Agreed.

Scoping Inquiry into the Cervical Check Screening Programme: Statements (19 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: I will not be able to cover one quarter of the issues I want to talk about in ten minutes. We could have written the first page of the Scally report. It refers to systemic system failure. We all knew that. I am a member of the Joint Committee on Health and the Committee of Public Accounts. Systemic system failures happen because people either make or do not make decisions. Human...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Clinical Guidelines for the Introduction of Abortion Services: Discussion (19 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: Is the Chair calling spokespeople and then going around-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Clinical Guidelines for the Introduction of Abortion Services: Discussion (19 Sep 2018)

Alan Kelly: I thank the witnesses for their statements. Today has helped to bring together the various components that must be put in place. It is a jigsaw that must be put together by January and then monitored continuously. We can all see that is going to be quite difficult but it must be done. The presentations were very well put together on what needs to happen in the pre-nine weeks, nine to 12...

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