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Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Message to Dáil (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: In accordance with Standing Order 87, the following message will be sent to the Dáil: The Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality has completed its consideration of the Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014 without amendment.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: Amendment Nos. 12 and 13 to Schedule 1 have been ruled out of order as they are in conflict with the principle that the Bill is read a Second Time.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: It would be helpful if the Deputy just said that he reserves the right to bring forward amendments on Report Stage on this section. That would cover the Deputy.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: That is noted.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: Amendment No. 6 in the name of Deputy Finian McGrath is out of order.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: No. That is not allowed. The amendment is out of order so it cannot be discussed.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: The Deputy can take the matter up with the Bills Office. I am informed that as it involves a potential charge on the Exchequer, it cannot therefore be moved. That is a long-standing tradition as long as I am a Member and longer.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: The advice I have is that it seeks to obviate the requirement from the Minister for Justice and Equality to get the consent of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform prior to advancing moneys to the commission. Moving this requirement could potentially increase spending by the Department of its allocation to the commission. This could involve a charge on the Exchequer and,...

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: How stands the amendment?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: The Deputy has opposed the section. Will the Deputy please try to come in at the appropriate time?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: I am trying to take it as well as I can.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: Amendment No. 8 in the name of Deputy Finian McGrath is ruled out of order. I am advised that it involves a potential charge on the Exchequer.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: The advice is that it seeks to broaden the parameters under which the commission may run an inquiry by removing one of the conditions for the conduct of inquiries currently provided for in the Bill. This amendment could involve a charge on the Exchequer and must, therefore, be ruled out of order according to Standing Order 156(3).

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: It is a potential charge on the Exchequer. That is the ruling from the Bills Office.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: No. As I understand it, under the Constitution, governments of the day can propose amendments that involve a charge on the Exchequer because they raise taxes.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: The Deputy may get advice from elsewhere on the issue but I have to go by the advice I am given.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: That is noted.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: Amendment No. 9 in the name of Deputy Finian McGrath is ruled out of order as it involves a potential charge on the Exchequer.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: Amendment No. 4 is in the name of Deputy Finian McGrath but will be moved by Deputy Pringle.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission Bill 2014: Committee Stage (6 May 2014)

David Stanton: Does Deputy Mac Lochlainn wish to comment?

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