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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: This email from Mr. McGee to Mr. Barrett might help us shed light on what was happening here. Mr. McGee asks how Mr. Barrett is doing and goes through some of the issues. He then says: "I think the problem in approaching the solving of this, is that because of the potential negative reputational risk for the organisation - in that once this starts to be sorted out it hits the public media,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: -----"has said if you wish to meet and discuss this etc. might be useful..."

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I thank Mr. Barrett. I do not doubt the provenance of the email or its authenticity.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes. It is received from Mr. Barrett. It is page 117 of the pdf. I have extracted pieces from it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Mr. Culhane commissioned Mr. McGee to write the report, and he duly went about his business and produced the report. Mr. Culhane did not think it appropriate to tell Mr. Kelly of internal audit about the report. Who did he share the report with?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Mr. Dunne?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay, our friend Mr. Leamy. Mr. Culhane passed it up. Obviously, Mr. Culhane was troubled by what was in the 2008 report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Obviously Mr. McGee also had concerns.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: However, it appears that his biggest concern was the possibility of reputational risk and of the Accounting Officer appearing before this committee. Did Mr. Culhane discuss those matters with Mr. McGee?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I remind Mr. Culhane that he is giving an account of himself and his responsibilities to an Oireachtas committee.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I want Mr. Culhane to answer with full accuracy. Did he have a discussion with Mr. McGee about the manner of sorting these things out, the risk of reputational damage and, in particular, the possibility of the Accounting Officer, that is, the Garda Commissioner, appearing before the Committee of Public Accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I know there were discussions. Did Mr. Culhane have the type of discussion I am outlining?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Mr. Culhane never had such a discussion with Mr. McGee?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I know that. It is a particular type of discussion that I have described.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am sorry, Mr. Culhane-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: No, Mr. Culhane cannot. This email to Mr. Barrett is from 2015. In it, Mr. McGee specifically sets out what he regards as the big jeopardy of reputational damage and, not least, these matters coming to the attention of the Committee of Public Accounts. He goes on to say in the same email that Michael - he refers to Mr. Culhane by his first name - is open to meet to discuss this. He says...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: However, Mr. Culhane is telling us now that he never discussed with Mr. McGee the issue of reputational damage, appearances before the Committee of Public Accounts and so forth.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: No, Mr. Culhane absolutely cannot. I want him to answer the question. Did he or did he not have a discussion with Mr. McGee in which he discussed reputational damage and the possibility of these matters coming before the Committee of Public Accounts, "Yes" or "No"?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is no recollection a "Yes" or a "No"?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I do not accept that. I am sure Mr. Culhane has a very busy and varied life but I do not accept that he would have no recollection of such a discussion with Mr. McGee.