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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I want to know how many Military Road will accommodate.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: That is just across from Military Road.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: So, they will all be accommodated in either one or the other.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Can Mr. Nugent give us a note on exactly who and what numbers are moving from one place to the other? There has been criticism. I would have been quite critical of the selection of Military Road and what led up to it and the fact that Harcourt Square was not secured. I just want to be sure that we are going to have sufficient space to accommodate people. It would be useful to have a note...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Okay. We know it is time limited. Is it in budget? Will it be on time? There is no question of over-holding.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I know a move like that is not going to be a minor deal in itself. Is there a plan already in place for that move?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Military Road was not even on the original list.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: It is difficult to figure out how it actually came about but I do not have the time to go into that. I have a number of other issues I want to raise with the Commissioner. With regard to the appropriation accounts, there is a reference on page 5 to the Garda youth diversion programme. I have been looking at the crime statistics and what happens with a formal caution or whether somebody is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: It was somewhere around 6,000 or 7,000 if I remember correctly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: They were significant.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Can Mr. Harris come back to us with that figure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: There have been some reviews. There was a national youth referral review. One of the things that comes up repeatedly for us public representatives is that people think if someone is aged under 18, they are told there is nothing that can be done about it. That is a very dangerous message, including for the young people themselves. What starts out at a low level escalates. Is Mr. Harris...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: The crimes were not suitable for a JLO. That may be because the young person does not regret his or her actions. Sometimes, however, the crimes are quite serious. Does Mr. Harris have a breakdown of the kind of incidents and their seriousness in this context?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: As regards the deployment of personnel, I did a breakdown-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I did another one last year. Mr. Harris referred to the sophistication of his deployment of staff, but it does not look very even. The east coast is significantly lower in terms of the ratio of personnel to population compared with the rest of the country, with the exception of County Kerry. Counties such as Meath and Kildare always feature at the lower end of the ratio and have done so...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Not all of them have a rapidly growing population and are coming from a low base.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I can show this in other areas as well. I am drawing the Commissioner's attention to it, as I always do, because he can see there is a trend in population growth and it does not match. Portlaoise was selected as the location for the divisional headquarters for Laois, Offaly and Kildare. Laois and Offaly combined have 73% of the population that Kildare has. Why was that location...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: If the superintendent was there, it got the division.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: I have a number of very brief questions, the first of which relates to the Central Statistics Office, CSO, and the statistics it issues "under reservation". What is the current status of that issue and how will it be resolved? Was a protected disclosure made in relation to the 999 calls issue? Is that investigation now completed? Is there an issue with staff retention? It has been...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Catherine Murphy: Is there going to be an issue with a number of senior people all retiring at the same time?

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