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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: I thank the witnesses for furnishing the information on the allowances. With regard to the pay of the top 100, I find the column detailing the allowances particularly interesting. We see that, in the main, there are allowances in the order of €24,000 to €42,000, the latter being the allowance for one individual. What are those allowances about? I see that one manager has no...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: So there is no sponsorship element to any of those allowances?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: We need to see the breakdown of allowances because the arrangements contrast with the ongoing process involving travel and subsistence rates for the majority of staff, who are just trying to get the Civil Service rates. The figures are akin to what some people are actually earning in RTÉ at this point.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: I thank Mr. Lynch. I want to ask Ms O'Leary about client hospitality. In any of the trips or outings, were members of the board, the chair or presenters wheeled out to meet sponsors? I assume that is part and parcel of what is needed to keep sponsors sweet.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: What about-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: Would members of the board ever be asked to attend an event with a commercial sponsor?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: Would there be an ask of a top presenter whose programme is effectively sponsored? Other than at the Renault events with Mr. Tubridy-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: -----the presenters would not be asked to turn up.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: I want to understand a little more about the relationship between presenters and sponsors. I take what Ms O'Leary said in that regard. First, I want to ask about her working relationship with Noel Kelly. It was said last week that advice was offered on dealing with sponsors. Could Ms O'Leary elaborate more on her working relationship and how frequently she would have contact with Noel Kelly?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: I have a question that is perhaps for Mr. Lynch but also for Mr. Collins and Ms O'Keeffe. I am very thankful that Ms O'Keeffe is here, particularly as she is a former employee. On the impact of sponsorship deals on the negotiation of a contractor fee, I have a question on the determination of the overall fee negotiation. The presenter is not always aligned with the sponsorship of a...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: Has there been any tidying up of policy? We have the editorial guidelines but has there been any new guidance for staff working within RTÉ regarding their relationships with sponsors over recent months? Is there a policy with regard to the use of the corporate box on match days in Croke Park or the Aviva Stadium. It would be important to know that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: I am referring to availing of corporate entertainment.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: I also want to ask about the trip to Japan. It is important that we get an itinerary for the trip because I believe there is some speculation that there was a stopover on the way back. We need clarification on that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: Yes.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: I thank Ms O'Leary. I have two final questions. On Toy Show the Musical, I get that risk is part and parcel of any arts programming. Certainly, the show did not work out as intended. I believe the revenue was 15% of what RTÉ had forecast in quarter 2 last year. Mr. Coveney referred to the project as being multi-annual. What were his expectations for years two and three of the...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: What did Mr. Coveney forecast for years two and three? From the text, RTÉ is kind of acknowledging that it could have made a loss, even though it was not forecasting one, but it was obviously expecting to make a gain in year two or year three.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: I thank Mr. Coveney. I have a final question for Mr. Shortt. The external review was announced yesterday. It will be approximately eight months by the time we see something concrete from that process. What does he believe needs to happen in the interim within RTÉ? First, within the board, because he is on the board, what changes need to happen to try to reinstill confidence of both...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: I thank Mr. Shortt.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: Is the allowance of €42,000 for a car?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Marie Sherlock: Apologies if this has been asked. Have Ryan Tubridy or Noel Kelly ever asked for the public record of Ryan Tubridy's earnings to be corrected?

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