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Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: Okay. We must be getting false correspondence in that case.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: I am actually pretty confident it is not false.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: That is no problem at all. We cannot get into individual cases because of the ridiculous rules that apply to us. Anyway, the point is clear, no matter who pays Caranua. Not all the stories were good news, unfortunately. There were some outstanding cases and issues that I hope can be dealt with.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: I appreciate that is the position of Ms Downes. Those of us on this side are paid by the public and we have to listen to what they are telling us.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: We will send Caranua the details.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: In the case of those survivors who were less satisfied during the period, what were the main complaints?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: At that point, Caranua makes a judgment on the quotes. If Caranua did not like the look of the quotes, it would send them back. Is that not right?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: Does Ms Downes believe that the guidelines and legislation handcuffed Caranua in providing an optimum service to survivors?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: The Department has to put something in place when Caranua ceases to exist. If Caranua was advising the Department, would it recommend that the Department address the overly bureaucratic nature of the scheme? Given the difficulties that victims have had and the levels of education that they were unable to take up, would Caranua say email and telephone is not the way to go and that a...

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: With the benefit of hindsight, would Ms Downes be advising, therefore, that because there is diversity and limitations on what people can deal with, we need a simpler system for the future?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: To be doubly clear for the record, there are no applications outstanding. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: Apart from the three applications, how many decisions are with the appeals officer?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: He does not tell Caranua.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: Are there many outstanding responses?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: The figure is somewhere between zero and ten. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: We would be interested in having that. I have a question on the financial side. I notice the figure for membership and subscriptions amounts to €4,600. What are they?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: Even anecdotally, are the Caranua representatives aware of memberships that are paid by the organisation?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: Yes, I would appreciate if Mr. Fitzpatrick could do so. I was a member of IBEC in the past in business. What role does IBEC play? What did IBEC ever do for Caranua?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: Is there no state agency or Department to which Caranua could defer for such advice?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Marc MacSharry: Caranua joined IBEC for that. The cost is approximately €4,600 per year. It is a lot of cash in the scheme of €100 million. Is it not?

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