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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: I mean the contract itself that has resulted in a project that is now due to be delivered in 2024, which is beyond the original timescale-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: ------and within two years of that, Mr. Watt is unable to provide any assurance of the final cost. Does he agree that when dealing with a contract on that basis, that is a flawed position that we are all in?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: That is not what I am saying. What I am saying is that we are now in a situation where we are in the middle of construction and Mr. Watt, as Secretary General of the Department responsible, cannot provide a guesstimate as to what the total cost will be. We all recognise that there will be issues. Chairman, how long do I have left?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: Very briefly ------

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: My point is not that I was looking for a definitive figure but for an estimate, which cannot be provided. Mr. Watt knows that this committee-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: I find that extraordinary coming from a former Secretary General of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. He is saying that it would be impossible to develop a capital investment programme at all if we are to say that every contract is meaningless in terms of -----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: And we accept that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: We are dealing with a project in which the original estimate cost was €800 million and which now is above €1.7 billion and Mr. Watt is saying that we cannot have an estimate of the final cost. I consider that to be a flawed process and I do not believe there is any other capital project

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: ------ where, at this late stage, we could not have a guess as to its final cost.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: I have said on a number of occasions to tell me what the final estimated cost. I think that is a fair question. Unfortunately, we did not receive a fair answer.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: I thank Mr. Watt. He will be aware that our committee, along with the Joint Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach, has spent a lot of time discussing his salary. The allocated salary for the position he took up was €292,000 and he waived the increased portion of that. Has he continued to waive that salary increase? Does he believe the salary is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: Just to clarify, the question I asked related to the public statement that Mr. Watt made that he was waiving the increased salary. The only question I asked was whether that continues to be the case. Is he saying he will not answer that question?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: No, that is fine. Deputy Catherine Murphy can go on ahead.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: I am okay for now.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: I was looking for clarification, in the first instance, as to whether we have written to GSOC as well on this matter. The length of time, at the best of times, that GSOC investigations take can be quite frustrating for those who are dealing with the system. Separately, can we get confirmation GSOC is on our work plan for next year? It would be useful if we had it appear before the committee.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: I request that, in the interim, we send a letter to GSOC.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: My point can wait until the January meeting, if that is agreeable.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: Is there a reason we must deal separately with National Broadband Ireland and the Department of Environment, Climate and Communications? The timeframe for putting specific questions to each body will be very limited. If it is the case we will deal with each body separately, I propose that we waive the correspondence meeting in the afternoon and have National Broadband Ireland for the full...

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rail Network (16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: 61. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport the timeframe within which the all-island strategic rail review is expected to deliver its conclusions. [61887/21]

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rail Network (16 Dec 2021)

Matt Carthy: 84. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport if the all-island strategic rail review will consider the proposal to develop a new rail line from Dublin to the north west servicing County Monaghan and other counties. [61886/21]

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