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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Issues: An Garda Síochána (7 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: Previously, some of the issues drove the implicit expectation. The Policing Authority and Mr. O'Sullivan, in his own report, mentioned that there were levels of expectation that drove the inflation that we saw. How has the Garda addressed this, for example, with key performance indicators, KPIs, and data oversight? From speaking to many gardaí, I am aware they feel there is an...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Issues: An Garda Síochána (7 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: Would all the witnesses recognise that the policing plans that were previously drafted were data obsessed, forgetting about the stories or the good work behind whatever that interaction was? Are new KPIs being developed to reflect the procedure that should go beyond the data fields?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Issues: An Garda Síochána (7 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: That is a positive change. I agree with Deputy Brophy that it would be a waste of time and resources to spend hundreds of thousands or millions of euro trying to prosecute and nail the grass roots gardaí. That would not achieve some of the reforms of which the witnesses spoke previously. A point I would raise is that recently we saw a fine of €3,000 for superintendents who...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Issues: An Garda Síochána (7 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: That is good. I wish to talk about the relationship between An Garda Síochána and the Department of Justice and Equality. We know from the Toland report that operational independence for An Garda Síochána is extremely important in order that it can exercise its public duty. I want to specifically focus on the recent issues we have seen around the setting of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Issues: An Garda Síochána (7 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: I know that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Issues: An Garda Síochána (7 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: That does not address the question whether Mr. O'Driscoll thinks this is correct. We heard comments from Assistant Commissioner Leahy, for example, in this regard, and I think Assistant Commissioner O'Driscoll referred in his statement to the criteria that were set for the Garda. However, Mr. O'Driscoll is couching his language in cautious terms in respect of the criteria that were imposed...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Issues: An Garda Síochána (7 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: I know that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Issues: An Garda Síochána (7 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: There are areas of significant population growth. Does Mr. O'Driscoll agree that this pilot scheme did not incorporate new populations, that is, populations that have grown as a result of urban sprawl to the extent that existing Garda stations cannot provide the level of policing that might be required? Does he agree that the criteria set by Government did not reflect the population change...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Issues: An Garda Síochána (7 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: That is fine. I will just reiterate what I said the previous time Mr. O'Driscoll came before the committee. I think the Garda has been thrown under a bus by the Department and the Government. The witnesses are here in defence. The Department and the Government drew the dots and forced the Garda to join them. It should be for the Garda to exercise its operational independence to decide...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Issues: An Garda Síochána (7 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: We need to separate politics from policing and not-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Issues: An Garda Síochána (7 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: I will finish after this question, which concerns the internal memo that was leaked from Assistant Commissioner Leahy. I am just confused. The Select Committee on Justice and Equality discussed this last week with the Minister for Justice and Equality. It sent out the wrong message at the wrong time. Suddenly there was a fear among communities across Dublin that have benefited from...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Functioning of the Department of Justice and Equality: Department of Justice and Equality (6 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: I thank the officials for coming in. I will follow up on some of the matters raised by Deputy O'Callaghan. I will go directly to the documents that were recently discovered by the Department. For clarity in respect of the discovery process, will the officials detail to the committee the mechanism of the discovery in the earlier part of this year. How were the documents discovered and was...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Functioning of the Department of Justice and Equality: Department of Justice and Equality (6 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: Did the Department consider carrying out a general trawl?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Functioning of the Department of Justice and Equality: Department of Justice and Equality (6 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: Who were the people dealing with the discovery?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Functioning of the Department of Justice and Equality: Department of Justice and Equality (6 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: And Mr. O'Callaghan was dealing with the discovery.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Functioning of the Department of Justice and Equality: Department of Justice and Equality (6 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: Mr. O'Callaghan is not sure if a general trawl was discussed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Functioning of the Department of Justice and Equality: Department of Justice and Equality (6 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: If Mr. O'Callaghan was heading the division, would he not know that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Functioning of the Department of Justice and Equality: Department of Justice and Equality (6 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: Did they know about the documents we have recently seen?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Functioning of the Department of Justice and Equality: Department of Justice and Equality (6 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: I do not want to talk about it. That is fine. I am discovering what happened in the past. I do not want to discuss the process to which Ms McPhillips referred. To return to the specific matter, Mr. O'Callaghan said he was not sure if there had been a general trawl.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Functioning of the Department of Justice and Equality: Department of Justice and Equality (6 Dec 2017)

Jack Chambers: And Mr. O'Callaghan is not sure if there was an electronic trawl of documents.

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