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Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is Dr. Murphy absolutely sure about that?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Dr. Murphy knows that the legislation is retrospective in terms of its definition of protected disclosures. Is he absolutely sure about that?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Because I am aware of a case outside of the two anonymous disclosures that I believe falls under the category of a protected disclosure.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Does Dr. Love wish to say something here?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: So the HEA is in receipt of a protected disclosure in respect of CIT. Can I ask the Department if it is in receipt of a protected disclosure?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Thank you for that clarification, Mr. Gaynor. Yet, Dr. Murphy is insistent that he has had no protected disclosure. I want him to bear in mind the legislation governing and defining protected disclosures is relatively recent but it is retrospective in terms of the definitions and the protections that it affords. Does Dr. Murphy wish to revise his response to me?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Dr. Murphy is not hearing me when I say "retrospective". Forget the legislation. How many disclosures has Dr. Murphy received, these anonymous ones which he says have been comprehensively disproved?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Leave aside the anonymous disclosures. Has Dr. Murphy received any other disclosures?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: None.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I do not believe that is accurate testimony. Is Cork Institute of Technology currently in litigation with any employee or former employee in respect of any complaint brought forward which could be described as a disclosure?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I believe they could be. The one that I am thinking of relates to, I imagine, the same information which has landed with the Department, and now with the HEA.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: We could do cat and mouse here all day. I have no interest in doing that. There is another disclosure. It is not new. It is known to Dr. Murphy. The matters contained therein are very serious. I am not in a position to adjudicate as to the accuracy of any of these matters or to verify them. I am not casting myself in that role.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: When the HEA has done its due diligence, it will discover that CIT is very well aware of the situation. I say that as a word to the wise.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: That is fine. I thank Dr. Love. My point is made. There is no doubt we will have to return to CIT. We only had a very cursory look at it back in December 2015. There is no doubt in my mind, for all the reasons that other members have set out, that we need to come back and do a comprehensive piece of work. Dr. Murphy will be enjoying his retirement at that stage, but I hope he will come...

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I would hope that he would make himself available. May I just ask Dr. Murphy about KPMG and Arthur Cox? Who from KPMG was involved? Is there an office in Cork or did they come from Limerick?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: What about Arthur Cox? Likewise, I assume it has a fairly big presence. Does it have a Cork office?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Its staff came from Dublin. Although it lays claim to being the real capital, Cork is quite a small city. What are the interactions between boards, boards of directors and the movers and shakers in CIT and KPMG?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is there any crossover in terms of membership of any of CIT's boards or so on?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: The governing body or any of the organisational apparatus.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: It is something we should investigate. This is not to put anyone on the defensive necessarily but it occurs to me that we live on a small island and we have a relatively small population. Once one starts getting into circles of people, people know people who know people. We, as the oversight body, have to be sure that no one allows themselves unthinkingly to be in a position of conflicted...