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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank Deputy Burke. We will allow Mr. Watt to respond.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy also asked if we are looking at other jurisdictions.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Staying on the nursing home scheme, there are now 70,000 individuals who were eligible for the nursing home scheme. The average cost of a settlement is €22,600 per claimant. If all 70,000 individuals were to be successful and if this all carried through, the State is looking at a figure of more than €1 billion. Does Mr. Watt agree with that figure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: The figure would actually be €1.58 billion, as I calculate it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: What is the position of the Department of Health with regard to the vulnerable people who may have been entitled to redress? Is it the de facto position of the Department that it would not generally notify people or go trawling to notify people who were wrongly charged? Is that the position of the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is great. With regard to those who did not and who would fit into the category of those who would be entitled, at this point has the Department prepared a strategy for informing those people or the estates of those people that they may be entitled to compensation or redress?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay. In the case of the private nursing homes, how many cases were settled for those who were medical card patients in private nursing homes?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is that under review? May there be more?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: If the State settles cases with those who had medical cards and who had been in private nursing homes, does this not infer that everyone else who was in a private nursing home and had a medical card at that point has a case and is legally entitled to it? Obviously, what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: How could they be different?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: If person A and person B were in a private nursing home and both of them were in possession of a full medical card, which was the case at that time as I recall it because there was no GP-visit card then-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Therefore, they were in private nursing homes and the same charges applied. If people were in the same types of nursing home, will Mr. Watt explain why there would be a difference in the cases? Why would there be a variation? They had gone through that medical card entitlement gate. They did not have to go back and walk through it again. What is the difference?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: They all had medical cards.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Legally, it has been established that 50 to 100 cases, which is Mr. Watts' figure, have received that. Why would the others not? What is the difference?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is a compromise then.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is a compromise reached without going into court.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: This is a compromise reached without going to court so these matters have never been teased out.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: The bar people have to reach is to have had a medical card. That was tested in court. Mr. Watt and I cannot determine that now.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is it not likely then that they would be entitled to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is not what I am disputing. What I am asking Mr. Watt is this. Having reached that bar by virtue of having a medical card, which is the ground on which the Department and State settled, why, if Mr. A received redress, would Mr. B, who had not yet claimed it, not also get it?