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Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is that acceptable from the Department's point of view because we will have to see what it comes up with?

Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Professor Fitzgerald is a fresh pair legs for this task. The objective is to definitively deal with everything from start to finish, including the fact that two employees are currently on extended suspensions.

Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Has Professor Fitzgerald met the whistleblowers?

Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Professor Fitzgerald will appreciate there is a huge reluctance among people within the university to come forward.

Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I invite Dr. Thorn to confirm whether he will interview and speak to Professor Don Barry, former president of the University of Limerick, as part of his investigation.

Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I thank Dr. Thorn. He is examining many dimensions and it is a substantial job of work that he has undertaken. What qualifies him to investigate allegations of fraud, which is what this amounts to in respect of bogus expenses claims?

Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I recognise that.

Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: There will be matters that are technical in nature and potentially relate to fraudulent claims.

Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Has that been factored into the HEA's plans?

Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Provide technical expertise. In other words, Dr. Thorn will not draft a report that shows conspicuous absences within his investigation.

Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I wish to ask Professor O'Shea about Professor Emeritus Connell Fanning and the Keynes Centre. We do not have time to get into it, but a question was asked of UCC and Professor Fanning about the centre's output. Is it a separate institute?

Public Accounts Committee: University College Cork and University of Limerick: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: It was an unanswered question in our programme. Could we have some detail of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: It is illegible.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I will not reiterate any of the points that have been made already. Can Dr. Love say whether the HEA or the Department had sight of the whistleblowers' complaints?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: The anonymous ones.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes, in CIT.

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I just want to know was the Department and the HEA -----

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: So they had been in the HEA's line of sight. I will return to CIT. The issues regarding DIT have been well rehearsed. I want to welcome DIT to Grangegorman. It is within a stone's throw of where I live. The campus is stunning and I wish the DIT well there. It will be a big opportunity for the inner city and for educational opportunity in our neighbourhoods, which is much needed. I...

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is Dr.Murphy about to retire?

Public Accounts Committee: Dublin Institute of Technology and Cork Institute of Technology: Financial Statements (22 Jun 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: So Dr. Murphy is finishing his tenure. I do not know if he has availed of the opportunity to consider the cultural issue but I listened to him today and what I hear that there were 196 allegations, none of which stood up and there is nothing to see here, move on.

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