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Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is beyond the 12 nautical mile limit.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Looking at the issue in the context of security, even in terms of renewables offshore, have we reached a point as a country where we have to be able to detect all planes that come into the area we control, that is, that perimeter around Ireland? It is the Shannon region as well as the SOTA and NOTA, which are areas we manage on behalf of the UK but that are under our jurisdiction in terms of...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Related to that is the whole issue around the cost of living. Does public transport have a big role to play in that regard? The Minister is dealing with the dual issues, one of which is encouraging people onto public transport, which has considerable benefits for climate change. I often use the train and am a great believer in public transport. The other issue is that of the cost of...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Have there been any developments since then?

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We are here to assist the Minister.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The Minister might give us an insight into his own views in this area.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The current issue with the cost of living presents an opportunity to promote public transport. Cost is a factor for many people. At one stage, Irish Rail was pushing people to go online. It brought the fares down and there was a huge uptake. It is something that I ask be considered. I take it the Minister has a submission gone into the Government from his Department on the issue. I wish...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Good to hear. It does not seem to operate exclusively across the board. I want to get my head clear on something on page 3 of the briefing document. In the programme for Government it says the ratio of spending on public transport to that on roads will be 2:1. That is under the capital programme. I am seeing that active travel is €356 million and sustainable mobility is...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will hopefully have within a short period the second railway line restored between Limerick Junction and Limerick city.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The Minister would have to deal with getting from Shannon Airport to the rail line.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The Minister would have a shuttle to Sixmilebridge or Cratloe.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: He would take the existing rail line in.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is the line that goes to Foynes.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am supportive of the rail proposal in Limerick. I thank it is a practical thought process to take the commuter bus from Shannon Airport to link up with Sixmilebridge or Cratloe. There has to be some level of speed to get there in a reasonable time. I welcome that.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: That gives the Minister a window of five years.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It is not mutually exclusive in relation to road projects. I do not want to go down that line. I want to deal with the facts. Am I correct in saying for 2022 the ratio between public transport and roads is about 50:50 in the capital budget? Is that reasonable?

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Under the programme for Government it is 2:1, but at the moment it is about 50:50.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: In addition, the bulk of the €360 million for active travel is coming out of the capital budget.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: If I include the €360 million as part of public transport, it is still 50%.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Okay. If I strip it out, it is probably about a 60:40 ratio in favour of roads. Is that reasonable?

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