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Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: In what years did the three big building projects arise?

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is now 2019 and maybe in 2020 we might get an answer to this question about something that happened. It will be so historic. From the perspective of a Chairman of a Committee of Public Accounts, justice delayed is justice denied. The taxpayer will be denied if there is a loss. It has already taken six years and nobody has been able to put a figure on the loss, if there is a figure. In...

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: More than frustrating. It is frustrating but not good enough that it has taken so long. I am not even talking about the old VEC, just this one. I will leave it at that. I thank the witnesses for attending. It is a difficult kind of meeting when there is a report that has gone to the Garda but I am satisfied the meeting was conducted properly. Nothing was said there that could compromise...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We are dealing with matters relating to housing, planning and local government in respect of Vote 34 of the Appropriation Accounts. Before we proceed I wish to make one remark about our work programme. The Secretary General of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform had written to us saying he was available for 7 March. We confirmed this morning that he will attend the meeting on...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I thank Dr. Rhodes. I call Dr. McManus to give the opening statement on behalf of the Irish Council for Social Housing.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I thank Dr. McManus. I call Deputy Cullinane.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: For the people watching, will Mr. Hannigan explain what he means by the "P and A agreement"?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. Hannigan explain what it is?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Which organisation have they signed up with?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: With the regulatory committee.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: So there are 260 organisations. How many of the organisations have signed up with the regulatory committee?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: How many bodies have signed up with the other organisation? That is where I am getting confused.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Are most of the people who have signed up with Dr. McManus's organisation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Can Ms Lyons go through those again? She mentioned €1.9 billion.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: That figure refers to assets. The question was about debts, but Ms Rhodes threw in the assets figure.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: One of the our guests has a commitment and is obliged to leave. The rest of are okay to remain a little longer. They should feel free to go. We were late starting and we understand they might need to leave.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I apologise for the late start because it threw out the schedule. I hope approved housing bodies interim regulatory committee will be a full regulated body one of these days. I call Deputy Catherine Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Did we get a copy of the annual report?

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