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Seanad: Order of Business (31 Mar 2015)

David Norris: No one ever stopped the Senator, but the referendum is about one thing only. The issues of children and adoption have been dealt with. As it is utterly dishonest to suggest children will in any way be affected by it, the Senator should stop doing it. I am concerned by the misinformation. Some nasty material is being circulated, about which I will speak on another occasion. It is coming...

Seanad: Order of Business (31 Mar 2015)

David Norris: I was not responsible for it.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCúigiú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Aois Intofachta chun Oifig an Uachtaráin) 2015: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Age of Eligibility for Election to the Office of President) Bill 2015: Second Stage (31 Mar 2015)

David Norris: Which side did he come down on?

Seanad: An Bille um an gCúigiú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Aois Intofachta chun Oifig an Uachtaráin) 2015: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Age of Eligibility for Election to the Office of President) Bill 2015: Second Stage (31 Mar 2015)

David Norris: The Government ruled it out.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCúigiú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Aois Intofachta chun Oifig an Uachtaráin) 2015: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Age of Eligibility for Election to the Office of President) Bill 2015: Second Stage (31 Mar 2015)

David Norris: The Government ruled it out-----

Seanad: An Bille um an gCúigiú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Aois Intofachta chun Oifig an Uachtaráin) 2015: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Age of Eligibility for Election to the Office of President) Bill 2015: Second Stage (31 Mar 2015)

David Norris: I also welcome the Minister of State back to this House and remember the days when he sat before me in the Chamber. I also wish to extend my sympathy to him on his recent bereavement. I am pretty indifferent to this legislation and to the referendum. I do not believe it has any great wide appeal and I do not believe people are that interested in it. I consider it to be ludicrous and...

Seanad: An Bille um an gCúigiú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Aois Intofachta chun Oifig an Uachtaráin) 2015: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Age of Eligibility for Election to the Office of President) Bill 2015: Second Stage (31 Mar 2015)

David Norris: ----- with 50% here and 50% there. Senator Landy's contribution was interesting because he stated the jury is out and then he indicated that at present, he is thinking about voting against the proposal.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCúigiú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Aois Intofachta chun Oifig an Uachtaráin) 2015: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Age of Eligibility for Election to the Office of President) Bill 2015: Second Stage (31 Mar 2015)

David Norris: Exactly. The jury is still out.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCúigiú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Aois Intofachta chun Oifig an Uachtaráin) 2015: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Age of Eligibility for Election to the Office of President) Bill 2015: Second Stage (31 Mar 2015)

David Norris: That is an important consideration. The Minister derives all this from the Constitutional Convention and refers to the importance of the convention, the wonderful work it did in bringing forward proposals and so on. However, the Government is highly à la carte about the proposals which it took up from the convention. If one examines the figures pertaining to this particular debate, it...

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

David Norris: Could I just say in passing that it is a pity? I absolutely accept the Leas-Chathaoirleach's decision but it is a pity the Cathaoirleach does not give reasons for rulings. I sympathise with Senator Walsh on this issue.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

David Norris: It is in the post.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

David Norris: One may quote the title of the paper.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

David Norris: Names are creeping into the debate.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

David Norris: That is not true.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

David Norris: I hope that this will not be continued in a tedious way. I would make a few observations on the amendment. First, it is rather God-like. It is emitting some kind of God-like statement from a cloud. It states: "A child born as a result of a DAHR procedure shall have two parents." Biologically, of course, they do.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

David Norris: It is the people who are under the delusion that they are God that worry me.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

David Norris: It is not. As I said, the amendment is rather God-like. Attempts were spoken of to restrict scientific practice and so on and all these amendments, which we were supposed to discuss together, have one thing in common - they seek to restrict. One of the contributors said that parent fathers are pursued through the courts for maintenance money and why are they not doing anything about the...

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

David Norris: It did not stop him from getting married and having four children.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

David Norris: Then sit down.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

David Norris: That is not a point of order; it is a point of disorder.