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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: So it is part of the Department of Education but stands separate.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: It is a separate agency.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: It has been challenging for the last year or two. The SEC came with the figures around the increase in the number of students and the decrease in the number of examiners. Each year that there is a decrease in examiners, the experience of the examiners gets only more difficult, making it more challenging year-on-year to get new examiners in. Where I come from, there was a leaving...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: If we are not getting the examiners, and in fact there has been a 30% decrease, and teachers are not being attracted into taking on the examiner role, what will we do? How will the SEC increase capacity? Where else can we look to bring in people with relevant qualifications who can do this job?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: Is it layered? The SEC looks at the application. The paper comes in. Is there any assistant examiner position? I would love to know, perhaps not now but another time, how that online marking system works. Where is the digitisation coming in for a junior certificate paper from beginning to end? What is the roll-out of that? Is there an assistant person who could look at the papers...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: Why is it going down?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: I have a number of other questions to ask if I may.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: How many staff are in the State Examinations Commission?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: Where does the responsibility fall for marketing?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: Who is the marketing manager in Mr. Dolan's section? Is there no director of marketing, advertising or recruitment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: I am sorry for interrupting but I only have a couple of minutes. Who is managing the SEC's marketing and advertising? The SEC came to the committee to state there is a shortage of examiners. Within its cohort of 190 staff and more than €70 million of a budget, how is the SEC highlighting who is managing its marketing and advertising? I am aware it had a number of staff who were...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: Does it need a dedicated position in light of the issues Ms Feeney presented to us?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: A dedicated position in which a person is responsible.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: To my mind, I would like to see the SEC present on those social media platforms, for example, to engage with teachers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: Obviously, we need to up the ante here. What I would like to see coming back from the State Examinations Commission is what its board is going to look at in terms of a dedicated position and how it is present in media. That is how it gets recruitment in. What sort of short or one-minute type videos is it looking at to showcase the strengths of this position and the benefits of taking part?...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: That is great.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: It would be good to have it on the SEC's.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: What incentives does a school have? What is a principal's incentive to do this if he or she cannot say four teachers are currently examiners? Parents then can see there is a teacher in this school who is currently an examiner and really understands the system and the marking. There is potentially a benefit for a school to state that so many of its teachers act as examiners or have done so...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Junior Cycle Examination Results 2022: State Examinations Commission (25 Oct 2022)

Aisling Dolan: I apologise; it is just that the slot is so short.

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