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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: How many people are housed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: They are not included in the 10,000 figure.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: That means that there are approximately 9,000 staff providing-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I suggest that it would be in the interests of the approved housing bodies to produce figures for the staff dealing with housing and accommodation and those that are dealing with disability or elderly service provision. When a single figure gets thrown around, people say that the approved housing body sector is an industry in itself. I have also heard from local authorities that when an AHB...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I ask the witnesses to send the committee a note on this issue. As I said, these things get bandied about at public meetings of local authorities on a regular basis. It is in the interests of the AHBs for the committee to see the situation from their perspective too. I wish to focus now on the last annual report of the ICSH. Reference is made to the mortgage to rent scheme in 2017 and a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I understand. It is slow.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Now that the scheme is up and running, the Irish Council for Social Housing must have some recommendations. I have heard that in the small print it is stated that where someone is in negative equity, nobody talks about it and that it is technically parked, but it can come back and bite him or her at a later date. When banks agree to transfer under the scheme, is there an absolute write-off...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: This is where I am going to be a little critical of the Irish Council for Social Housing. I ask the witnesses to take it in a positive way because we are all here to help people with a housing problem that needs to be dealt with. I will make up a figure. Let us say a house is worth €300,000 and the Irish Council for Social Housing takes it over for €160,000. That is figure...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will ask it the next day. I have read about this issue in the Comptroller and Auditor General's annual report. We mentioned credit union lending. The Central Bank has given approval. Has any of it started to come through?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes, I am confused.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We are back to a special purpose vehicle before anything can happen.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am still looking at some of the results. Will the Irish Council for Social Housing send us a note explaining it in layman's English? Phrases have been tossed around and the public is lost. Even the majority of Members of the House get lost. Acronyms such as CAS, SHCEP and CLSS are used all the time by everyone.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Then that question is answered. I do not have it in front of me. I will go back to the practical stuff because Deputies run into these issues all of the time. On anti-social behaviour and removing tenants, some of the organisations are slow in that department.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I ask Ms Donaghy not to speak only about her own experience. We are speaking about the sector.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Have many members of the Irish Council for Social Housing been brought to the RTB for not dealing with these issues?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Are the local authorities governed by the RTB?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am voicing issues about which I hear. It does not necessarily mean that I am promoting them; rather, I am raising them.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: What survey?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Was the figure 5%?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(21 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: What type of notice? The phrase has been used.

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