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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: It is an important clarification.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: He is being very helpful.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: I will return to this issue in a different forum, but that is not what was communicated publicly at the time, which is why I wanted to have it broken down. The figures communicated to the Department in August 2018 are critical. I have a few more quick questions, some of which are about costs based on operations. Therefore, I presume Ms Hardiman will answer them. Before that, on the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: Are there costs related to any of the buildings nearby or disturbance? Are there other costs in addition to the €1.7 billion? It was said the figure was €1.43 million and then Ms Hardiman explained. In fairness, there is a difference of only €9 million. Is it absolute?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: The people watching at home do not have it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: That is fine. There is no problem in that regard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: Will Mr. Pollock, please, answer my question about reinstatement and disturbance costs?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: Are there any costs relating to the site, disturbance on the site, reinstatement of other buildings or any ancillary costs relating to that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: To be fair, the board does not have control over that. Are there any other anticipated costs? If the answer is "No", that is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: Okay. From an operational point of view, will the hospital operate an accident and emergency department 24-7?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: How many operating theatres are there?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: Will they operate for five, six or seven days?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: That makes sense.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: The McKinsey report a long time ago-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: -----recommended 380 beds. We now have 473. Across the sea, there was a report on the use of technology in the NHS. The witness will find nobody else in here who is a bigger fan of e-health than me. I say this consistently. It was one of the things I concentrated on with regard to Sláintecare. It is to do with my background in technology. There were decreases in clinical...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: I have a last question for Mr. Costello. Obviously this has been a difficult responsibility at times, and undoubtedly in the last six months. I have a typical interview question and I am sure Mr. Costello has interviewed many people. If he had to do it again is there anything he would do differently?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Costello would not do anything differently.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: I know. I read it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: There is only one. In fairness, I read Mr. Costello's statement on electrical, tendering and all of that. However, I did not see any broader lessons.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Alan Kelly: Is the board going to release that report?

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