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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Organisations, like households, may be asset rich but cash poor.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank the witnesses. The next speaker is Deputy Catherine Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: The figures on geographical locations that have come out in the last week underline the fact that there are blank spots. It infuriates people in communities under pressure where there are issues with the health services or school places. Many parents cannot get their child into the local school or even the one in the next village or suburb. People in areas where there is huge housing...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: They can go up or down.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Can the Secretary General repeat that for me?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: What is the figure for the longer-term international protection?:

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: This is a huge challenge and I acknowledge the work being done in this area. In terms of provision, is there a figure we will hit that instead of having perhaps 200 people without accommodation we will hit a ceiling that we cannot get beyond?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Take the figure of 170,000 which we are working off, is the witness fairly confident that by December we will be able find accommodation for them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Congregated accommodation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay. Will Mr. McCarthy come back to the committee within the next week with the figures regarding the percentages per 1,000 of population regarding other European countries because he can see that this-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Will he give the breakdown both for international protection and the beneficiaries of temporary protection, in other words Ukrainians? Will Mr. McCarthy break that total figure down just for comparison across other EU countries?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: If Mr. McCarthy could come back to the committee with that also, that would be helpful.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: That concludes the questions from the Members. We thank the witnesses and the staff of the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth, and also the witnesses from the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery, and Reform as well as Mr. O'Connor from the OPW. The committee appreciates what the witnesses are doing and recognises that their...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: The public business before us this afternoon is as follows: minutes, accounts and financial statements, correspondence, the work programme, and any other business. The first item of business is the minutes of the meetings of 1 February and 9 February, which have been circulated to members. Do members wish to raise any matters in relation to the minutes? Are the minutes agreed? Agreed....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Do any members wish to comment on those? No. Can we agree to note the listing of accounts and financial statements? Agreed. As usual, the listing of accounts and financial statements will be published as part of our minutes. No. 3 is correspondence. As previously agreed, items that were not flagged for discussion for this meeting will continue to be dealt with in accordance with the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: In looking at this as the Committee of Public Accounts it triggered that letter to the Department of the Taoiseach. It is about the sheer cost and the length of time it takes to actually get to the truth. Is there anything else we can do in this regard?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Perhaps this is something we may come back to.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: I do not think it is about us doing the investigation. It is more about us as the Committee of Public Accounts coming up with a better suggestion with regard to how tribunals are carried out and what mechanisms we have for investigating tribunals. I propose that we write back to the Department of the Taoiseach acknowledging the letter and asking what work has been done in looking at...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Sorry, yes, that would be to the Department of Justice.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay. Is that agreed? Agreed. The next category is correspondencefrom and related to private individuals and any other correspondence. Several items have been held over from our meeting of 9 February. The first is No. 1699 from the clerk of the Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport and Media and dated 23 January 2023. The joint committee requests the Committee of Public...

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