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Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: They should close down the European Parliament next May. I do not know how they will cope without the Minister of State.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: No. They should definitely close it down because they will not be able to cope without the Minister of State.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: The Minister was saying something that was not true. He said the majority would not be affected.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: Thanks to the Fianna Fáil budgets.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: We found money which the Government lost.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: She is taking the flak for Gerry.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: Deputy Reilly must be doing something right.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: Many people are not aware of it.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: We did.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: It is good we are dealing with the Finance (No. 2) Bill now and the budget is not rushed in the several weeks before Christmas. It gives a certain amount of time to reflect on and deal with it. Some of the budget’s measures are grossly unfair, continuing a level of unfairness that has been the hallmark of the Government, an unfairness well documented by the ESRI and Deputy Stephen S....

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: I will wait for the Minister to finish what he is doing.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: I will wait until he is ready.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: I will wait until the Minister of State is finished.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: If the Minister of State is not taking part in the debate, I am not sure what the point of it is then.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: Pensioners were told this pension levy was a once-off for four years. For many of them, the levy has had a permanent impact on their incomes. The cut to pensions in some cases reached 10% and is not just for four years but forever. It goes back to the old law that when one introduces a temporary tax, it turns out to be very difficult to get rid of it later. No matter who is in power, they...

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013: Second Stage (11 Dec 2013)

Thomas Byrne: It is a low tax system there.

Seanad: Oireachtas (Ministerial and Parliamentary Offices) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Report and Final Stages (28 Nov 2013)

Thomas Byrne: If Senator David Norris were to join the Labour Party today, where should his allowance go?

Seanad: Oireachtas (Ministerial and Parliamentary Offices) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Report and Final Stages (28 Nov 2013)

Thomas Byrne: That is not what the Minister said when he was in opposition.

Seanad: Oireachtas (Ministerial and Parliamentary Offices) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Report and Final Stages (28 Nov 2013)

Thomas Byrne: Was the Minister anomalous in the 1990s?

Seanad: Oireachtas (Ministerial and Parliamentary Offices) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Report and Final Stages (28 Nov 2013)

Thomas Byrne: The House has had exhausted debate on this issue. I remind the Minister that there is a precedent in this regard. When an Independent Deputy joined the Fianna Fáil Party in the previous Government, she was advised legally, as I am sure Fine Gael and the Labour Party are currently being advised, that she was entitled to keep the money under the legislation. Incidentally, the Minister...

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