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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: Is there a move by anybody in the NDFA or the Department to try to quantify the magnitude of who has been let down?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: Does the NDFA still have an arrangement with DIF through PPP Co?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: Is it within the NDFA's remit to ask DIF and PPP Co, which the contract is still with, for a list of those whom they believe are outstanding and unpaid?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I accept that but it is not the question. The NDFA has a relationship with DIF.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: DIF and Carillion were PPP Co originally, is that right?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: Carillion was part of PPP Co, which survives.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: That is what I was clarifying. It was my analysis of it. DIF took over the 50% involvement of Carillion. DIF is now effectively 100% PPP Co, is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: It is not far off.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: There are funders, as well as DIF, and they-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: -----make up the gap Carillion left behind.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: If the NDFA wishes to use it, which is not the impression I have, there is a relatively easy mechanism in place to quantify the amount DIF believes to be outstanding. This would allow us to put a figure on the table and the subcontractors could either agree or disagree with it or argue for or against it. Let us at least quantify exactly what is involved here, whether it is €20...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: Will the NDFA supply the committee with those figures?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I accept, having been here for the past two and a half hours, that the priority is to get the schools open. There are many people in the Gallery, and I am sure others are watching proceedings, who may not be able to buy new school uniforms or books for their children this year because they have been let down. They thought they were entering into a deal to build schools for the State. What...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: Will the NDFA supply the figures I requested?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: That may be the case but the liquidator is not here. Representatives of the NDFA, a State organisation, are before the committee with officials from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. We are trying to reform the public service and how public expenditure is managed by having one person assume the roles of Minister for Finance and Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: Did the State pay Sammon or Carillion?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: To whom was-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: PPP Co, which was DIF and Carillion combined, paid Sammon Contracting about 98% of what it was due.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: The argument that Sammon Contracting got caught up in Carillion is not, in Mr. Cahillane's opinion, the reason Sammon got into trouble.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: Sammon ultimately dealt with the PPP Co, which was DIF and Carillion. It got 98% of its money, did not pay others and went into liquidation. As a result, desks in schools have not been paid for. Whatever about testing and certifying floor surfaces and electrical works, I do not believe there is any certification process for school desks. If there is one, I am not aware of it. It is wrong...