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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Let us compare that to a modest-size private car which is perhaps 1 tonne to 1.5 tonnes in weight.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Are Jaguars and BMWs getting grants this year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is there a need to bring down that by €10,000? One can still buy a very large EV for €40,000 or €45,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is it under consideration to reduce the ceiling for the price? At the moment one can buy a vehicle for up to €60,000. We know there is a higher rate of purchase of EVs in areas where there is substantial public transport. I do not want to pick on people in south Dublin, Dún Laoghaire or anywhere like that, but we do know that there are a lot more of them than there are in my...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Just a second. We know that from the figures we got last year. The point is that a lot of those big EVs are being purchased by people who have a bus stop not too far from their front door, a tram passing very near to them or cycle lanes. We see a lot of them driving in on such routes in the morning, whereas someone down the country is paying high carbon taxes. A lot of low-paid workers in...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: I do not want Dr. O'Grady to go through 26 counties.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: I ask Dr. O'Grady to send that information to the secretariat of the committee within the next week.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: People doing short runs.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: But they are within a half-hour commute of where they are going.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Sligo is a big urban area now; it nearly has city status. If research was done on who is buying them, a lot of them will be people who are working in Sligo.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: We do not want to go off on a tangent on that point. I understand that but the point I am making is that there is an issue with lower-income households in rural or provincial areas and workers who need a car to get to work. They are caught in a bind and they need to watch where this is going. I accept that there will be more in Dublin because of its population but people in provincial...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Along with the table for the purchase of EVs per county, I ask that we be provided with a breakdown per county of EV charging points. Out of the global amount in the State I would like to know who owns the charging points. I know the ESB installed an initial 1,000 charging points.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: How many of them did the ESB install?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: I would like a breakdown on that, on the number of EVs per county that were grant-aided last year and-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: The number of EVs purchased, the number that were grant-aided and the number of charging points per county.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Several figures were incorrect. That is accepted, is it not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy should bear in mind there is a policy issue. In terms of value for money and the advice the Department is giving Ministers, has this been discussed within the Department? Up to €60,000 can be spent on it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am asking if the target is realistic. I am a great supporter of it; it is a great scheme. The three schemes are bringing great improvement, but is the target realistic?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: I would like to have a record of who owns the public charge points that are available at the moment. Are there not other public charge points besides the ESB ones?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Financial Statements of the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland: Discussion (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: I have a question in regard to wind energy and someone from the SEAI might be able to help me. Regarding assistance to wind energy companies, it appears VAT refunds are one of the mechanisms and the other is depreciation write-offs on corporation tax. In terms of the involvement of the SEAI, is that it?

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