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Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: Could the Minister pass on any such information through the clerk?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: For what specifically is the €205,000? It is over and above what was estimated at the start of the year. Obviously, something has come up. It is for the extra personnel?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: Extra Garda Reserve members are costing €205,000. There are not 205 extra Garda Reserve members, however.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: Costs associated with them.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: Each gets €1,000 per annum. It would be interesting to get a detailed breakdown as to where the money is going. Some of these Estimates are very general and there is no breakdown at all. The next subhead concerns clothing and accessories, in respect of which there is a figure of €736,000. I refer to the national rolling out of the online uniform ordering system and extra...

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: There is a need to make up for it at the end of the year.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: Interesting. The next subhead concerns transport. There is approximately €5.5 million extra being sought in this regard. There was an initial capital allocation of €7 million, announced on budget day, for the purchase of 400 Garda cars. There are savings of approximately €1.5 million within the subhead in respect of maintenance or running expenses of the Garda fleet....

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: On transport, €5 million extra is being requested for 2014. I take it this is for the period to the end of December 2014.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: What are we getting for that? Are we talking about extra cars, motorbikes, bicycles or vans?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: Are they all cars?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: Extra vehicles?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: How many extra vehicles will the €5.5 million purchase? It will not result in 400 as the figure is for 2015 also. Is that not the case?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: What is the €5.5 million for?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: The fitting out is also quite expensive.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: Subhead A.6 concerns communications and other equipment, and an extra €15 million is listed in this regard. The additional requirement for this subhead relates for the most part to the cost of the GoSafe road safety contract and to the offsetting of certain receipts for fixed charges.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: Members must stick with the €6 million that actually is being discussed.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: I know, but this is where members get lost. This relates to further system development and a necessary information systems upgrade and I understand these are external information technology services, not internal services.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: I take it these are services that are being bought in from the outside.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: One issue that came to the joint committee's attention recently is that it does not appear to be possible to e-mail one's local Garda station.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
(26 Nov 2014)

David Stanton: The next subhead A2.6 concerns the maintenance of Garda premises and €1.7 million is being sought in this regard, mainly to do with safety services and equipment, fire safety services and equipment, as well as plumbing and electrical matters. As there are no questions on that, we will move on to the next subhead, which pertains to station services. There has been an overrun in this...

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