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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: We will give it another three minutes before suspending for ten minutes. We can take it up where we left off.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: We will suspend at this point but the witnesses can take as long as they wish for the rest of the presentation. We can then have a questions and answer session. I apologise again for the interruption.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I thank the witnesses for their patience. I welcome Mr. Michael McCabe, chairman of the Centre for Independent Living, CIL, who is accompanied by Ms Natasha Lynch, his personal assistant, and Mr. Gary Lee, the centre's chief executive. I invite them to make their contributions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Are you referring to the public sector in general, Deputy, or those that are specific to the Department of Health?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Thank you. On behalf of the committee I thank Dr. McLoughlin, Ms Fitzpatrick, Ms Duffy and their colleagues for appearing before the committee today and for being generous with their time. It was more than we anticipated. We will suspend the meeting to allow our next guests to take their seats.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Dr. McLoughlin indicated he needed to leave at by 5.30. Would he be agreeable to remaining for a further ten minutes?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I will take the final round of three questions together and then the witnesses can respond.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: It is €10.6 million.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: We can clarify that at a later date. It would be a few weeks before we could expect the Secretary General to be before us again. We will proceed with the Senator's questioning at this point and see where we might get.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I now call Deputy Harrington.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Sorry Deputy, I must interrupt you for a moment. We have a logistics issue in the room which must be resolved.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I want to let the first round of questioners finish before returning to Deputies and Senators who may have further queries. I now call Deputy Mulherin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: The Deputy has expressed a view and Dr. McLoughlin has refuted it. We will leave the matter at that. However, if the Deputy wants to make an additional point, he may do so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I request a very brief response.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: That is fair enough.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: The Secretary General is not expected to comment on Government policy and to be accountable for it in terms of budgets. I appreciate Dr. McLoughlin's co-operation, however, and I ask him to respond in kind.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Sorry, Senator-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I will allow the Senator to finish, but when he does he should address specifically the topic under discussion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: No interruptions. Allow Dr. McLoughlin------

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Mobility and Motorised Transport Allowances: Discussion (6 Mar 2013)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: The Deputy will have a chance to respond when Dr. McLoughlin finishes his comments.

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