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Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Does Mr. McEnery advise large groups of nursing homes, possibly newcomers to the market that might be in the business of acquiring small, private, traditional family-type operations?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Has Mr. McEnery found himself in the position whereby he would be advising and providing a client with financial advice in regard to the acquisition of a nursing home that is in difficulty, perhaps because it has fallen foul of the new regulatory standards?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: To acquire small operations, family-type businesses, that might have got into financial distress for whatever reason, including that they might not have been able to keep pace with the new regulations around standards and occupancy levels and so on.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Would some of that advice be given to, for instance, Seneca Healthcare?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is Seneca Healthcare a client of BDO?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay. What about Letsbuyhealthcare?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay. Mr. McEnery does not see a conflict of interest in him, as the chairman of the regulatory board, individually providing financial advice to either a nursing home or more large corporate groups in the context of the apparatus of the fair deal scheme and the crash, during which time the nursing homes were under massive financial pressure, and to the big players that came into the market...

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is Mr. McEnery the only person from BDO on the board?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Who is the other person?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is he also an adviser to the healthcare sector?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I presume he does not have a conflict of interest either.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I thank Mr. McEnery. I am astonished at his persistence in decrying conflict of interest when it is obvious. The fact that he was at the October meeting - we can dispute what he said and why he said - crystalises and demonstrates without a shadow of a doubt his absolute conflict of interest. I do not believe that he should be the chairperson of the board of HIQA. In fact, I do not believe...

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: October 2009

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: The issue of charges is entirely separate-----

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: To summarise, notwithstanding everything else that has been addressed, Mr. McEnery has confirmed that he attended a meeting convened by Nursing Homes Ireland on 23 October 2015. He confirmed that at that meeting a matter of boycott of the fair deal scheme was discussed and he has acknowledged that, on the basis of that meeting, an investigation by competition authorities is now under way....

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Boycott was discussed.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Boycott was discussed and an investigation is now under way. Whatever the witness might say about the distinctions between HIQA and the NTPF, we all understand that architecture. However, for the witness to suggest that it was in any way tolerable for the chairman of the board of HIQA to attend and speak and give advice, insights or experience at a meeting whose subject was the boycott of...

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: The discussion took place at the meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I do not accept that.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Departmental Staff (17 Oct 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I too would like a sense of the costs associated with the Taoiseach's political staff and advisers. The Taoiseach might provide that to us. Nick Millar is a communications person. Is that correct? There are two press secretaries. What are they doing? What relationship do they have, if any, with the strategic communications unit? Where is the division of labour? I want the...

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