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Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: She is in the Government party.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: Her decision benefited the Senator greatly.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: They are not.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: It is because they want change.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: The Minister of State is well aware of my views.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: Absolutely.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: Now, Senators.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: It is the war of the Whites.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Sean Power, to the House. He is representing his colleague, the Minister of State, Deputy Brendan Smith, who has responsibility for children with regard to the proposed changes in child care. I emphasise these are proposed changes and the time for consultation is now. The proposal is to be implemented in June 2008, which provides an opportunity for...

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: The question of charging has been introduced to pre-primary school education. If the Minister of State wishes to consider future staffing arrangements he should re-consider the entire staffing of the HSE which is completely over-staffed.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: I am a former Minister of State at the Department of Health. When the health boards were amalgamated under the Health Service Executive no redundancy programme was put in place. Instead of a reduction in the number of managers along the line, there has been an increase in that regard. There is room to consider some of them moving to the child care area if they are qualified in that regard....

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: From my experience in this House over a long period I am convinced——

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: I have experience in this House over 30 years.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: I have come across proposed schemes on many occasions. On this occasion, the depth of feeling within the Fianna Fáil parliamentary party is very strong.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: In fairness to the Minister of State, he must be given additional funding to provide for an enhanced scheme, which I am convinced will happen. Fianna Fáil is around too long as a political party for its members not to have their ears to the ground.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: We also have a very highly qualified and educated Civil Service which sometimes brings forward proposals.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: I have been in four——

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: I am sorry, I have more to say.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: Councillor Orla Leyden makes the point that many child care facilities will be under threat. Fianna Fáil has an excellent record in education, of which we are very proud. A scheme has been presented which I believe represents a discussion document.

Seanad: Community Child Care Subvention Scheme 2008-2010: Statements (Resumed) (14 Nov 2007)

Terry Leyden: As far as I am concerned it is a discussion document because we are discussing the document at this point in time. I know the two sides of this coin. There was a feeling that certain people availing of the community care services had very high incomes. The Labour Party would not be interested in that kind of thing.

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