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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: Okay, that is two questions for the price of one. I call Mr. Flood.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: I ask Mr. Balinski to be brief as we are against the clock.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: On that question, is it not a huge administrative function to ballistically test a lot of the firearms?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: It probably would be self-financing as well. We are more or less finished. I spent a number of years in the FCA-Army Reserve and one was not allowed to use a firearm until one was highly competent in every aspect of it. Could the witnesses briefly tell me what requirements exist at the moment in terms of competency? I assume people must have some training. Is that a requirement under the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: How is that certified?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: I thank the gentlemen for being present today. It has been a long session. Every question that was asked was answered thoroughly and at length. We are grateful for that. Perhaps the witnesses could alert us later in written format to the clerk about best practice in respect of centralised systems. Likewise, if other points come to them they should feel free to contact the clerk and to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: We have resumed in public session. The purpose of this meeting is to have a further engagement with citizens who made submissions on the review of firearms licensing. On behalf of the committee I welcome Mr. Philip Slattery, Mr. Mark Dennehy, Mr. Jeff McCann, Mr. Brian Conroy from the Irish Firearms Dealers Gunshops, and Mr. Joe Costello from the National Rifle Association of Ireland, and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: I did not think Mr. Dennehy disliked us that much. The issue of consolidated legislation is what he was referring to there. I thank the witness.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: Thank you Mr. McCann. I call Mr. Conroy of gunshop.ieto make his opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: Thank you Mr. Conroy. I must point out that the committee does not have the authority to set aside the report as such. It will, however be making recommendations to the Minister based on our hearings. I call Mr. Joe Costello of the National Rifle Association of Ireland, NRAI, to make his opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: Thank you Mr. Costello. The next speaker is Mr. Michael Tope.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: I thank Mr. Tope for his interesting submission. I congratulate those involved in winning the Gallery Rifle World Championships. Perhaps Mr. Tope would elaborate a little more about that, including in what year Ireland won the championship.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: Well done and congratulations to all involved.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: I was taken to task recently by somebody for using the word "weapons". Apparently, we should use the word "firearms". I am advised "weapons" are designed to hurt and kill and used only for that purpose. I was not aware of that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: Of course.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: Did Mr. Slattery say that the owner has changed the licensing requirement by doing this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: Is the example shown in the picture, a modified Ruger 10/22, not legal?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: Perhaps I am missing something. Is Mr. Slattery saying the owner is moving it from the unrestricted category to the restricted category by making the change?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: One or two other delegates want to respond to the Deputy, if he does not mind.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: (Resumed) Discussion (21 Jan 2015)

David Stanton: We will do our best.

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