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Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: I move amendment No. 2:In page 12, between lines 21 and 22, to insert the following:“Amendment of Section 81E to Pensions Act 1990 20.Section 81E of the Pensions Act 1990 is amended by the substitution of the following subsection for subsection 7:“(7) Where a delay by a complainant in referring a case under this section is due to any misrepresentation by the Respondents or a...

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: Justice for all.

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: I am a bit disappointed in what the Minister has to say because she has given no commitment whatever to raise this matter.

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: I thank the Minister very much.

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: I thank the Minister very much. There was intervention to prevent a case going to adjudication. That is very serious. People paid into this scheme for spouses and children that they did not have. It was an unjust form of taxation. All I seek is an opportunity for people to make a complaint and have it adjudged. If there are other people, who are not gay couples, who want to make a...

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: When I have finished speaking it will be withdrawn. I take on board the very constructive suggestion of Senator Darragh O'Brien. We will have a battle when it comes to the pension scheme. We might even have the numbers to do it, and there might be a sense of justice across the floor among some people. I think of the Taoiseach's nominees, the Independents and the Labour Party, whose...

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: This is a mare's nest and it is a complete virago of nonsense. I am a believing, practising and church going Christian but the churches should get out of civil marriage. If there is a difficulty here, it is of their own making. There are two elements in a marriage which takes place in a church. There is the religious marriage and there is the civil marriage. As a practising Christian, I...

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: I am speaking directly to the amendment unlike the previous contributor. I do not know why the Acting Chairman has interrupted me.As far as I am concerned, there is absolute logic in what the Minister is doing here. The suggestion that "spouse" is a completely different term for "husband and wife" is not the case. Many same-sex couples refer to their partners as husbands and wives already....

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: That is what the people of Ireland decided. If the Senator disagrees, that is his prerogative. The legal position is that the people of Ireland in a referendum decided on equality, and that is what we are dealing with now. It seems to me that the amendment is perfectly appropriate. As I said, if the churches want to get involved in civil marriage, Senator Mullen referred to the legal...

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: It was.

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: A breakdown for Thomas, called Didymus.

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: The Presbyterian Church, for which I have a great respect, has its highest concentration, to a massive extent, in the North of Ireland, where, shamefully, they have managed to frustrate same-sex marriage. Therefore, it does not come as any surprise that it would take this sort of attitude. On the business of this being a filibuster, Senator Mullen's references to time, how Members need not...

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: We have all of five Members standing.

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Marriage Bill 2015: Committee and Remaining Stages (22 Oct 2015)

David Norris: This is a happy day for all of us. For me it is the end of a 46-year-long journey. I am very glad it has ended, because it was beginning to get a little boring, to be honest. This is the overwhelming decision of the people and for that I am most grateful. The gay community could not possibly have done this alone. We were put in this position by the decency, good nature and respect for...

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Oct 2015)

David Norris: So would I.

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Oct 2015)

David Norris: The couple in question would know better than the Senator about this.

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Oct 2015)

David Norris: It is not a point of order.

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Oct 2015)

David Norris: That is fine.

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Oct 2015)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

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