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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: What is the average time now?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: I thank Mr. Breslin for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: I know.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: I agree totally.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: Nothing is going to be affected by cost overrun.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: Yes, but it is still €450 million in cash.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: It is the following year that is the problem, but that is a side issue. I want to get back to the report Dr. Scally is about to issue. I presume he is not just looking at the labs and the extra outsourcing but that he is also looking at quality assurance. Is that part of his remit?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: Is Mr Breslin certain?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: That is good, because we have had many questions on quality assurance. I expect all of those questions to be answered this week or whenever the report comes out. I do not mean that in jest. We all have many questions and there is a lack of traceability. We do not know to where this process has been outsourced. It is gathering all of the time and, as a consequence, we are not reassured...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: There have been improvements, but Dr. Scally's report will be coming up to the current date.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: And the level of quality assurance that obtained.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: I want to make sure, from a quality assurance point of view, that everything historically is now being examined. We need to get to the bottom of all of this. In his first report, Dr. Scally found that quality assurance was non-existent. We will now be getting into the detail of that first finding.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: He effectively said that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: He effectively stated that, from an oversight point of view-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: I accept that but that is not what I said.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: Dr. Scally was referring to the programme.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: I never said that. What I am saying is that there was no process or oversight in place from the point of view of managing the contract, the management of the labs and the outsourcing of work by the latter. Dr. Scally stated that previously. In this report, he is going to examine both sides of that equation, the oversight as well as the situation within the labs. I look forward to that....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: I accept that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: Has any assessment of the contracts been undertaken on the basis of what Dr. Scally is discovering?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme Update: Discussion (13 Feb 2019)

Alan Kelly: Those contracts will have to be examined as soon as Dr. Scally's report comes out. Mr. McCallion addressed this question earlier, but when are we going to have HPV? Are we going to have it this year?

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