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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: Perhaps we could have an example of one or two now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: Why have Eir and SIRO chosen to use fibre in urban areas? Why did they not go for fixed wireless?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I am sorry, I interrupted Senator O'Reilly. I will let the Senator finish.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: The concern is about the masts, planning, objections.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I will explain where the Senator is coming from. This has been raised a number of times during our hearings. ComReg, which is the trusted independent body in this field, has told us 6,000 masts would be needed to deliver 5G. I take the RISPA's point that it is proposing something completely different from 5G. The Plum report stated that fixed-wire operators would require 4,000 to 5,000...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I ask Mr. Matthews to let Senator O'Reilly finish. I will let him in afterwards.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: Did Mr. Gartlan say there are 19 sites in Cavan-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: How many premises would that cover?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: If RISPA is, therefore, trying to cover 5,400 customers, we are talking about more than 2,500 sites.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: Is planning permission required for those micro sites?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: So in the Cavan-Monaghan area we are talking about three masts. ComReg has said that for 5G, 6,000 masts are needed across the country. I want to ensure that people can understand this. When the witnesses talk about masts, are they talking about what ComReg is talking about? ComReg has given us advice on 5G or wireless technology. Mr. Gartlan is stating that, as per what ComReg previously...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: ComReg referred to 6,000 masts in the context of the roll-out of 5G. How many of those kind of masts is RISPA talking about for its proposal?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: They relate to the 4,000 customers in the area. They are what I would call smaller masts.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: That is for two counties. For 540,000, there would be many more masts required but Net1 does not have an exact figure in that regard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: ComReg, the independent trusted adviser, has a credible reputation on this matter. We want to know exactly how many masts RISPA is proposing to install to serve the 540,000 people. The complexity of planning has been outlined by many individuals. We already know about the problems with mobile reception in some areas. Constituents contact us and we say that they need a mast in their area...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: RISPA will not build any masts. Is that part of its proposal?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: Is RISPA proposing not to have any masts at all?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: Is that with wireless?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: In other words, not with fibre.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: Am I correct in saying that in its proposal RISPA could roll out wireless using the existing masts?

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