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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: No. I will read the second paragraph of the letter. We will put it up on the screen. It states that the institute is eager to facilitate the committee. However, it also states that on 2 February it received legal correspondence on behalf of two individuals-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: -----named in the memorandum. In the letter, counsel for the individuals communicated their clients' position that the memorandum contains a number of false allegations and potentially defamatory statements which could put their clients' good names at risk and materially prejudice their commercial interests and professional reputations. The letter suggests that any disclosure of the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy's request now is that we write to the Department-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I wish to clarify one matter. With regard to the information given to us regarding the shareholding, they have asked us to remove it because it is not accurate. However, did we not receive that from them?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is up to them to issue a statement indicating that they are not happy with it and we will publish any amendment they seek, but I am reluctant to take down information we received from them in good faith.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: They cannot do it now. There is only one shareholder.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will write directly to the HEA and the Department and give them a copy of this correspondence-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will write to the Department and the HEA, as the Deputy suggests, and give them a copy of this correspondence. We will ask them for their current position on these matters. With regard to the shareholding, they say the information may be misleading. We will ask them to clarify what they mean. If they tell us precisely what they are talking about, we will publish that letter when we...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Which?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes. There is an email attached to this letter with many redactions in it. I propose that we not publish that at this stage.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will forward this correspondence directly to the Department and the HEA.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will ask them to follow it up and come back to this matter as soon as possible. We will write to WIT specifically on the issue of the shareholding and ask it to clarify the issue. We will publish its letter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: It has given us a redacted version of the memorandum today.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will ask it to provide us with a redacted version of the memorandum too, if it is concerned about individuals being identified. That is agreed. No. 2002 is from Professor Donnelly, Waterford Institute of Technology. It relates to the same issue. He states that the institute is seeking clarification in response to the committee's request. That was an earlier acknowledgement of the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: People will have noticed the format of how we handle our business since 1 January is that we have the minutes which we publish and then the secretariat always now issues, with the minutes, an internal briefing note for us.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is not a public document; it is our own working document. It is a members' note for follow-up items and other matters. I hope the points the Deputy has requested are covered in that document. It is being actioned if they are. If anything is not included in that, we will ask the secretariat to issue a further letter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is fair enough. Is Deputy Jonathan O'Brien happy that the points he raised are in that briefing note?

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