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Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2020 (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: However, TII is not getting it until 2026.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2020 (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: In 2026, the people who are currently in government will probably be sipping piña coladas somewhere and enjoying their retirement. In the short term, I take it that these projects are shelved.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2020 (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: Will Mr. Walsh explain what is the status of these eight road projects?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2020 (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: In cases where delays transpire due to lack of funding, is it Mr. Walsh's experience that the overall cost increases if those delays are prolonged? By the time TII goes back to the project, new planning considerations can mean some of the work that was previously undertaken has to be redone.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2020 (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: Beyond inflationary and natural cycles, are they more expensive? For the eight projects in question, work has already been done to some degree on all of them. That may be feasibility studies or more technical matters. If progress is stalled or suspended and it takes longer to do it, and bearing in mind that general increases happen over time, is it fair to say there will be additional...

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2020 (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: Okay. To clarify, can the Department decide that the decision is wrong, that it wants the project to be prioritised in 2022 and that the current plans will have to be revised?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2020 (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: I thank Mr. Walsh.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: In respect of non-compliant procurement as regards Dublin Dental Hospital and the National Museum of Ireland, perhaps the Comptroller and Auditor General would detail how much money was involved and whether we are satisfied the explanations for non-compliance were logical. Is he satisfied that procedures are in place in order that they will not recur?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: Were they both for single services or single contracts? . Mr. Seamus McCarthy:No. In the case of the museum, it was substantially in relation to additional security. That could be related to staff not being on site. I believe it extended the contract. Steps are being taken in both cases to address the non-compliance and undertake competitive procurements.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: I have one other issue with regard to the State Examinations Commission, which has a turnover of €23 million. How much of that would be in respect of fees for examinations? The Minister for Education, Deputy Foley, announced earlier that the fees will be waived this year. The questions most people have are how the hell did we ever charge people to sit the leaving certificate in the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: How much of a proportion of the income of the commission would that represent?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: So, €60 million is the actual income.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: The difficulty is that we are dealing with what is, essentially, a State-funded body, namely, RTÉ, and the Department of Social Protection, but the committee does not have a good overview of the final implications of the practices of misclassification of the workforce in RTÉ. We know a substantial payment has been made to Revenue and that there will be claims from individuals...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: It is always a difficult one whenever we seek information relating to the Garda or associated bodies. The Department of Justice will come back and say these are independent bodies and at the same time indicate that it is engaging Garda management on the issues without specifying what "engaging" means - it is a broad term. The WRC was scheduled to meet on 26 January. Perhaps we could seek...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: Second, I am asking GSOC for a breakdown of who conducts its investigations before the commission appears before us. It would be useful for our hearing.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: I welcome that note. That will be circulated, I take it?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: A table would be useful as well, because it is quite elaborate, and I am not aware of any other organisation like this. I believe there are nine Government Departments that provide funding to An Taisce, for very specific and distinctive reasons, it has to be said. I wrote to the Chair on this yesterday, so perhaps we can deal with this now. Just to get clarification, does the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: As in the State agencies.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: I am really taken aback by Deputy Hourigan’s position on this issue. I would like to think that if there are items of clarification that might be of use to us in ensuring public money is spent to deliver value for money and for its stated purpose, we would ask the relevant question regardless of the issue or organisation before us. I am an agriculture spokesperson. I do not get...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Feb 2022)

Matt Carthy: In regard to the work done by the secretariat that we would incorporate other public bodies if they will provide funding as well as the Departments so that there will be a full review of public moneys.

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