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Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: Was that the Department's idea or is it related to the €5 million unit of Mr. Concannon?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: Did we come up with this internally or was it a cross-departmental decision?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: Who decided that?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: Its origin is-----

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: -----the new communications outlet.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: I do not expect Mr. McKeon to comment on policy but, from a punter's perspective, it gives a sense of political ownership to an announcement as opposed to saying it is a Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection initiative.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: They did not decide on this one. This one came from the communications unit.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: I am right in saying it is a new initiative. Its origin is the new spin - sorry, communications - unit. We will have that across the board. When the Road Safety Authority is making an announcement, will it be the same? Will it be a Government of Ireland initiative?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: I am sure the opening of Stepaside Garda station had the support of the Civil Service Management Board too but that is another matter. Has there been a cross-departmental assessment or cost analysis of carer's allowance with the Department of Health, the HSE, disability services or local authorities, to see if a loosening of the criteria for carer's allowance is possible? Could we reduce,...

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: No one is going to give Mr. McKeon 20 lashes for using initiative.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: Sure.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: I am not asking Mr. McKeon to advocate for it. Policy is determined and adopted by the Government, and implemented by the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection. However, policies are often determined by the Government having been advised by the Department. Could such a body of work be undertaken? It would be very useful for us from a Committee on Public Accounts...

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: As I was a little late, I did not realise Ms McGuckin was in the room.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: I will finish on this as I am taking up a lot of time. I know the witness cannot commit and that policy is for the Government. However, we can certainly ask. Would Ms McGuckin ask the Secretary General that a few hours be put aside for the relevant principal officers, Assistant Secretaries General or Secretaries General to sit down and look at this. Its outcome would be something this...

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: If Ms McGuckin could-----

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: That is a matter for the Government.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: We are not asking the witness to say whether it should or should not be done. We will make that decision in terms of what we would like to recommend. What the witness could do is say this is the analysis we have done, here is what we think it would cost and here is what we think the outcome will be. We are not asking Ms McGuckin to recommend or force a policy-----

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General 2016 Report
Chapter 16: Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 17: Management of Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 18: Department Reviews of welfare Schemes, Social Welfare Appeals Process, Social Insurance Fund
(7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: I thank the witness.

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: Minor Works Scheme (7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: 87. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills if payment of a minor works grant to a school (details supplied) in County Leitrim will be expedited; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [52496/17]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Autism Support Services (7 Dec 2017)

Marc MacSharry: 145. To ask the Minister for Health if his attention has been drawn to the fact that there is nobody appointed within the HSE who can assess children for autism in counties Sligo and Leitrim (details supplied); if his attention has further been drawn to the fact that having children assessed for autism privately is not an option for the majority of parents due to the cost; and if he will make...

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